Comparison of Lojban and Toaq - Revision history

Uakci: noun phrase → noun form

2023-12-06T20:43:52Z

noun phrase → noun form

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	\| Usually SVO: .i mi {{green\|cusku}} ra do \|\| VSO: {{t\|{{green\|Kuq}} jí hóq súq da.}}		\| Usually SVO: .i mi {{green\|cusku}} ra do \|\| VSO: {{t\|{{green\|Kuq}} jí hóq súq da.}}
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	\| brivla, sumti, cmavo \|\| [[Verb]], [[noun ~~phrase~~]], [[particle]]		\| brivla, sumti, cmavo \|\| [[Verb]], [[noun form]], [[particle]]
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	\| cnima'o: .ui .ua .ue \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|aja, â, obe!}}		\| cnima'o: .ui .ua .ue \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|aja, â, obe!}}

Laqme: Delta-fy

2022-12-18T14:36:28Z

Delta-fy

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	! Toaq		! Toaq
	\|-		\|-
	\| Stress segments words \|\| [[Tones]] segment words		\| Stress segments words \|\| [[Tones]], stress, and vowel length segment words
	\|-		\|-
	\| .i begins sentences\|\| [[Illocution]] marker ends sentence		\| .i begins sentences\|\| [[Illocution]] marker ends sentence
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~.i ku'i… / .i ta'o… \|\| [[Sentence connector]]s: {{t\|Keo…}} / {{t\|Fou…}}~~		\| Usually SVO: .i mi {{green\|cusku}} ra do \|\| VSO: {{t\|{{green\|Kuq}} jí hóq súq da.}}
	\|-
	\| SVO: .i mi {{green\|cusku}} ra do \|\| VSO: {{t\|{{green\|~~Kủq~~}} jí hóq súq da.}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| brivla, sumti, cmavo \|\| [[Verb]], [[noun phrase]], [[particle]]		\| brivla, sumti, cmavo \|\| [[Verb]], [[noun phrase]], [[particle]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| cnima'o: .ui .ua .ue \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|aja, â, obe!}}		\| cnima'o: .ui .ua .ue \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|aja, â, obe!}}
			\|-
			\| vocatives: coi ki'e \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|jadı, kıjı!}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| gismu \|\| [[Root]]		\| gismu \|\| [[Root]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| lujvo \|\| Compound word		\| lujvo \|\| [[Compound word]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| No equivalent, jvajvo-ish \|\| [[Serial verb]]		\| No equivalent, jvajvo-ish \|\| [[Serial verb]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~vocatives: coi ki~~'~~e \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|jadı, kıjı!}}~~		\| doi ''sumti'' \|\| {{t\|hóı}} ''NP''
	\|-
	~~\| doi +~~ sumti \|\| {{t\|hu}} + NP
	\|-		\|-
	\| zo .djan. cmene la .djan. \|\| {{t\|~~Chủa~~ shú ~~«Jảq»~~ mí ~~Jảq~~.}}		\| zo .djan. cmene la .djan. \|\| {{t\|Chua shú «Jaq» mí Jaq.}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| Singular logic and "xorlo" \|\| [[Plural logic]]		\| Singular logic and "xorlo" \|\| [[Plural logic]]
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	\| su'o, ro, lo, le… \|\| No equivalent, instead…		\| su'o, ro, lo, le… \|\| No equivalent, instead…
	\|-		\|-
	\| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/a-simpler-quantifier-logic/ su'oi, ro'oi, ro'oi pa, ru'oi] \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|sa, tu, ~~tushı, tuq~~}}		\| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/a-simpler-quantifier-logic/ su'oi, ro'oi, ro'oi pa, ru'oi] \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|sá, tú, túq}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| lo'au, ri'oi, [https://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/dau'u dau'u] \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|ke}}, {{t\|~~hoı~~}}, {{~~Tone~~\|2}}		\| lo'au, ri'oi, [https://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/dau'u dau'u] \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|ké}}, {{t\|hú}}, {{Done\|2}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| BY, ko'V, vo'V \|\| [[Anaphoric pronoun]]s, {{~~Tone~~\|2}}		\| BY, ko'V, vo'V \|\| [[Anaphoric pronoun]]s, {{Done\|2}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| No real equivalent, lo'e-ish \|\| [[Kind]]s and {{t\|~~baq~~}}		\| No real equivalent, lo'e-ish \|\| [[Kind]]s and {{t\|báq}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| prenex zo'u ~~comment~~ \|\| [[~~Prenex~~]] {{t\|bı}} comment		\| prenex zo'u stmt \|\| [[Topic]] {{t\|bï}} comment, [[Cleft verb]] {{t\|nä}}
	\|-		\|-
	<!-- ! colspan=2 \| Clauses		<!-- ! colspan=2 \| Clauses
	\|- -->		\|- -->
	\| lo su'u … ~~kei~~ \|\| [[Content clause]]: {{~~Tone~~\|5}} … {{t\|cy}}		\| lo du'u … \|\| [[Content clause]]: {{t\|ꝡä}} …
			\|-
			\| lo nu … \|\| [[Event]] accessor: {{t\|é}} …
	\|-		\|-
	\| lo ka … ce'u … ~~kei~~ \|\| [[Property]]: {{~~Tone~~\|5}} … ja … ~~{{t\|cy}}~~		\| lo ka … ce'u … \|\| [[Property]]: {{t\|lä}} … já …
	\|-		\|-
	\| poi … ke'a … ~~ku'o~~ \|\| [[~~Relative~~ clause]]: {{~~Tone~~\|3}} … {{t\|hóa}} … ~~{{t\|cy}}~~		\| poi … ke'a … \|\| [[Restrictive relative clause]]: {{t\|wë}} … {{t\|hóa}} …
	\|-		\|-
	\| noi ~~/ [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ soi]~~ … ku'o \|\| [[Incidental clause]]: {{t\|ju}} … {{t\|da}}		\| noi … ke'a … \|\| [[Incidental relative clause]]: {{t\|jü}} … {{t\|hóa}} …
	\|-		\|-
	\| lo poi'i … ke'a … ~~kei~~ \|\| [[Free relative]]: {{t\|lú}} … {{t\|hóa}} … ~~{{t\|ky}}~~		\| lo poi'i … ke'a … \|\| [[Free relative]]: {{t\|ꝡé}} … {{t\|hóa}} …
	\|-		\|-
	<!--! colspan=2 \| Adverbs		<!--! colspan=2 \| Adverbs
	\|- -->		\|- -->
	\| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ noi~~'a, soi~~'a] \|\| [[Adverbial]]s, namely:		\| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ noi'a] \|\| [[Adverbial]]s {{Done\|4}}, namely:
	\|-		\|-
	\| — noi'a melbi \|\| [[Adverb]]s: {{t\|~~dẽ}} {{Tone\|7~~}}		\| — noi'a melbi \|\| [[Adverb]]: {{t\|dê}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| — noi'a zvati be … \|\| [[Preposition]]s: {{t\|~~tì …}} {{Tone\|6~~}}		\| — noi'a zvati be lo purdi \|\| [[Preposition]]: {{t\|tî sóaq}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~Speaker picks~~ noi'~~a or soi~~'a \|\| ~~Verb ''is'' "Type I" or "Type II"~~		\| noi'o'a fengu \|\| [[Subject-sharing adverbial]]: {{t\|fêı}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| ja ji je jonai jo'u \|\| {{t\|ra rı ru ro roı}}		\| ja ji je jonai jo'u \|\| {{t\|ra rı ru ro roı}}
	\|-
	~~\| ga … gi … \|\| {{t\|to ra … to …}}~~
	\|-		\|-
	\| lu … li'u \|\| {{t\|mó … teo}}		\| lu … li'u \|\| {{t\|mó … teo}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| to … toi \|\| {{t\|~~(kıo~~ … kı)}}		\| to … toi \|\| {{t\|kïo … kı}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| pareci [https://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/mei'i mei'i] \|\| {{t\|fue guheı saq}} (hundred two-ten three)		\| pareci [https://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/mei'i mei'i] \|\| {{t\|fue guheı saq}} (hundred two-ten three)
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	\| gismu have max. 5 places \|\| Roots have max. 3		\| gismu have max. 5 places \|\| Roots have max. 3
	\|-		\|-
	\| se, te, ve, xe \|\| ~~se={{t\|mu}}, but prefer~~ [[Passivizer]]s		\| se, te, ve, xe \|\| [[Passivizer]]s
	\|-		\|-
	! colspan=2 \| Absent in Toaq:		! colspan=2 \| Absent in Toaq:
	\|-		\|-
	\| rafsi \|\| Compounds retain word forms		\| rafsi \|\| Compounds retain unabbreviated word forms
	\|-		\|-
	\| zi'evla / fu'ivla \|\| Not distinguished from [[root]]s		\| zi'evla / fu'ivla \|\| Not distinguished from [[root]]s
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	\| lerfu \|\| No special grammar		\| lerfu \|\| No special grammar
			\|-
			\| ga … gi … \|\| No forethought connectives
	\|-		\|-
	\| zo'e, fV \|\| Absent, must fill places in order		\| zo'e, fV \|\| Absent, must fill places in order

Laqme: dau'u

2022-06-25T12:00:02Z

dau'u

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	\| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/a-simpler-quantifier-logic/ su'oi, ro'oi, ro'oi pa, ru'oi] \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|sa, tu, tushı, tuq}}		\| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/a-simpler-quantifier-logic/ su'oi, ro'oi, ro'oi pa, ru'oi] \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|sa, tu, tushı, tuq}}
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	\| lo'au, ri'oi \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|ke}}, {{t\|hoı}}, {{Tone\|2}}		\| lo'au, ri'oi, [https://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/dau'u dau'u] \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|ke}}, {{t\|hoı}}, {{Tone\|2}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| BY, ko'V, vo'V \|\| [[Anaphoric pronoun]]s, {{Tone\|2}}		\| BY, ko'V, vo'V \|\| [[Anaphoric pronoun]]s, {{Tone\|2}}
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	\| to … toi \|\| {{t\|(kıo … kı)}}		\| to … toi \|\| {{t\|(kıo … kı)}}
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	\| pareci mei \|\| {{t\|fue guheı saq}} (hundred two-ten three)		\| pareci [https://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/mei'i mei'i] \|\| {{t\|fue guheı saq}} (hundred two-ten three)
	\|-		\|-
	\| gismu have max. 5 places \|\| Roots have max. 3		\| gismu have max. 5 places \|\| Roots have max. 3

Laqme at 11:58, 25 June 2022

2022-06-25T11:58:06Z

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 | lujvo || Compound word
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 | pareci mei || {{t|fue guheı saq}} (hundred two-ten three)
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Laqme at 11:44, 25 June 2022

2022-06-25T11:44:08Z

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	\| vocatives: coi ki'e \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|jadı, kıjı!}}		\| vocatives: coi ki'e \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|jadı, kıjı!}}
			\|-
			\| doi + sumti \|\| {{t\|hu}} + NP
	\|-		\|-
	\| zo .djan. cmene la .djan. \|\| {{t\|Chủa shú «Jảq» mí Jảq.}}		\| zo .djan. cmene la .djan. \|\| {{t\|Chủa shú «Jảq» mí Jảq.}}
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	\| to … toi \|\| {{t\|(kıo … kı)}}		\| to … toi \|\| {{t\|(kıo … kı)}}
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	\| ~~doi (+ sumti)~~ \|\| {{t\|hu}} (~~+ NP~~)		\| pareci mei \|\| {{t\|fue guheı saq}} (hundred two-ten three)
	\|}		\|}

Laqme at 11:38, 25 June 2022

2022-06-25T11:38:15Z

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	\| tanru \|\| No equivalent. Use {{t\|po}} or…		\| tanru \|\| No equivalent. Use {{t\|po}} or…
	\|-		\|-
	\| jvajvo \|\| [[Serial verb]]		\| No equivalent, jvajvo-ish \|\| [[Serial verb]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| vocatives: coi ki'e \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|jadı, kıjı!}}		\| vocatives: coi ki'e \|\| [[Interjection]]: {{t\|jadı, kıjı!}}

Laqme at 11:37, 25 June 2022

2022-06-25T11:37:22Z

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	\| lo'au, ri'oi \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|ke}}, {{t\|hoı}}, {{Tone\|2}}		\| lo'au, ri'oi \|\| [[Determiner]]s: {{t\|ke}}, {{t\|hoı}}, {{Tone\|2}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| BY, ko'V \|\| [[Anaphoric pronoun]]s, {{Tone\|2}}		\| BY, ko'V, vo'V \|\| [[Anaphoric pronoun]]s, {{Tone\|2}}
			\|-
			\| No real equivalent, lo'e-ish \|\| [[Kind]]s and {{t\|baq}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| prenex zo'u comment \|\| [[Prenex]] {{t\|bı}} comment		\| prenex zo'u comment \|\| [[Prenex]] {{t\|bı}} comment

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2022-06-25T11:29:42Z

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|+ Comparison of Lojban and Toaq
! Lojban
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| Stress segments words || [[Tones]] segment words
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| .i begins sentences|| [[Illocution]] marker ends sentence
|-
| .i ku'i… / .i ta'o… || [[Sentence connector]]s: {{t|Keo…}} / {{t|Fou…}}
|-
| SVO: .i mi {{green|cusku}} ra do || VSO: {{t|{{green|Kủq}} jí hóq súq da.}}
|-
| brivla, sumti, cmavo || [[Verb]], [[noun phrase]], [[particle]]
|-
| cnima'o: .ui .ua .ue || [[Interjection]]: {{t|aja, â, obe!}}
|-
| gismu || [[Root]]
|-
| lujvo || Compound word
|-
| tanru || No equivalent. Use {{t|po}} or…
|-
| jvajvo || [[Serial verb]]
|-
| vocatives: coi ki'e || [[Interjection]]: {{t|jadı, kıjı!}}
|-
| zo .djan. cmene la .djan. || {{t|Chủa shú «Jảq» mí Jảq.}}
|-
| Singular logic and "xorlo" || [[Plural logic]]
|-
| su'o, ro, lo, le… || No equivalent, instead…
|-
| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/a-simpler-quantifier-logic/ su'oi, ro'oi, ro'oi pa, ru'oi] || [[Determiner]]s: {{t|sa, tu, tushı, tuq}}
|-
| lo'au, ri'oi || [[Determiner]]s: {{t|ke}}, {{t|hoı}}, {{Tone|2}}
|-
| BY, ko'V || [[Anaphoric pronoun]]s, {{Tone|2}}
|-
| prenex zo'u comment || [[Prenex]] {{t|bı}} comment
|-

| lo su'u … kei || [[Content clause]]: {{Tone|5}} … {{t|cy}}
|-
| lo ka … ce'u … kei || [[Property]]: {{Tone|5}} … ja … {{t|cy}}
|-
| poi … ke'a … ku'o || [[Relative clause]]: {{Tone|3}} … {{t|hóa}} … {{t|cy}}
|-
| noi / [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ soi] … ku'o || [[Incidental clause]]: {{t|ju}} … {{t|da}}
|-
| lo poi'i … ke'a … kei || [[Free relative]]: {{t|lú}} … {{t|hóa}} … {{t|ky}}
|-

| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ noi'a, soi'a] || [[Adverbial]]s, namely:
|-
| — noi'a melbi || [[Adverb]]s: {{t|dẽ}} {{Tone|7}}
|-
| — noi'a zvati be … || [[Preposition]]s: {{t|tì …}} {{Tone|6}}
|-
| Speaker picks noi'a or soi'a || Verb ''is'' "Type I" or "Type II"
|-
| ja ji je jonai jo'u || {{t|ra rı ru ro roı}}
|-
| ga … gi … || {{t|to ra … to …}}
|-
| lu … li'u || {{t|mó … teo}}
|-
| to … toi || {{t|(kıo … kı)}}
|-
| doi (+ sumti) || {{t|hu}} (+ NP)
|}