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Mỉ Mỉao ga Nhäqpy: How do I skip slots?: Mentions object incorporation

2024-09-25T23:35:35Z

How do I skip slots?: Mentions object incorporation

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	=== How do I skip slots? (What's the equivalent of Lojban's <code>FA</code>?) ===		=== How do I skip slots? (What's the equivalent of Lojban's <code>FA</code>?) ===
	~~Toaq intentionally doesn't have this feature~~. ~~Just~~ fill the slots with [[pronoun]]s.		While not an exact equivalent of Lojban’s <code>FA</code>, if you need to access the last slot of a verb, you can use [[Object incorporation]]. Alternatively, just fill the slots with [[pronoun]]s.

	=== How does {{t\|bọ}} work? What is the meaning / place structure of {{t\|bọdo}}? ===		=== How does {{t\|bọ}} work? What is the meaning / place structure of {{t\|bọdo}}? ===

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	=== How do I type the tone marks/symbols/diacritics? ===		=== How do I type the tone marks/symbols/diacritics? ===
	See [[Input methods]].		See [[Input methods]].

			=== What's the word for... ===
			You can look it up on [[Toadua]], the community dictionary.

	== Speaking and writing ==		== Speaking and writing ==
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	A more elaborate unofficial number system is described at [[User:Loekıa/Numbers]].		A more elaborate unofficial number system is described at [[User:Loekıa/Numbers]].

			=== How do I refer back to {{t\|sá}} without a following verb? Does it bind {{t\|ráı}}? ===
			No, you have to use {{t\|hụ́sa}}.

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	== Speaking and writing ==		== Speaking and writing ==
	=== How many tones are there? What does each tone? ===		=== How many tones are there? What does each tone do? ===
	There are four tones, but each one has various uses depending on the part of speech they are used with. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done\|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done\|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done\|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done\|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone]] for a thorough overview. <!--{{Tone table}}-->		There are four tones, but each one has various uses depending on the part of speech they are used with. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done\|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done\|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done\|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done\|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone]] for a thorough overview. <!--{{Tone table}}-->

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			This page answers some '''frequently asked questions''' about Toaq.

	== Getting started ==		== Getting started ==
	=== Where do I start learning? ===		=== Where do I start learning? ===

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	== ~~Pronunciation~~ ==		== Getting started ==
			=== Where do I start learning? ===
			Try [[Toaq with Ease]] or the [[Grammar overview]]. The most complete resource is the [[refgram]].

			=== "Complementizer"? "Covert"? I don't understand the refgram at all! ===
			Don't worry, that's okay! It was written for an audience of linguists, not language learners. Focus on the example sentences if you feel lost in the jargon. If you don't understand a concept, try searching this wiki. You can also ask questions on [[Discord]].

			=== How do I type the tone marks/symbols/diacritics? ===
			See [[Input methods]].

	=== How many tones are there? What does ~~the …~~ tone do? ===		== Speaking and writing ==
			=== How many tones are there? What does each tone? ===
	There are four tones, but each one has various uses depending on the part of speech they are used with. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done\|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done\|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done\|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done\|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone]] for a thorough overview. <!--{{Tone table}}-->		There are four tones, but each one has various uses depending on the part of speech they are used with. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done\|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done\|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done\|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done\|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone]] for a thorough overview. <!--{{Tone table}}-->

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	=== What's up with the letter {{t\|q}} in this language? Pronunciation of {{t\|q}} ===		=== What's up with the letter {{t\|q}} in this language? Pronunciation of {{t\|q}} ===
	{{t\|q}} is somewhat special and its pronunciation may not be immediately obvious. It is pronounced like English ⟨ng⟩ (IPA [ŋ]). The use of the letter Q is a nod to [https://loglangs.wiki/Ceqli Rex May’s Ceqli], an international auxiliary language with loglang elements; it’s also found in natural languages such as Fijian (where it represents [ᵑɡ], to be exact).		{{t\|q}} is somewhat special and its pronunciation may not be immediately obvious. It is pronounced like English ⟨ng⟩ (IPA [ŋ]). The use of the letter Q is a nod to [https://loglangs.wiki/Ceqli Rex May’s Ceqli], an international auxiliary language with loglang elements; it’s also found in natural languages such as Fijian (where it represents [ᵑɡ], to be exact).

	~~== Writing ==~~
	~~=== How do I type the tone marks/symbols/diacritics? ===~~
	~~Please see [[Input methods]].~~

	=== What's with the ı / i without dot / dotless i? ===		=== What's with the ı / i without dot / dotless i? ===
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	== Tools and resources ==		== Tools and resources ==

	~~=== Where do I start learning? ===~~
	~~Try [[Toaq with Ease]] or the [[Grammar overview]]. You can also ask questions on [[Discord]].~~

	=== Is there a way to check whether my sentence is correct? / Is there a translator from Toaq to logic notation? ===		=== Is there a way to check whether my sentence is correct? / Is there a translator from Toaq to logic notation? ===

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	=== How does {{t\|bọ}} work? What is the meaning / place structure of {{t\|bọdo}}? ===		=== How does {{t\|bọ}} work? What is the meaning / place structure of {{t\|bọdo}}? ===
	Semi-officially, it ~~makes intransitive verbs, with only a slot for~~ the direct object. See [[bo-]].		Semi-officially, it moves the direct object to the front, and removes the old subject. See [[bo-]].

	=== How do numbers work? ===		=== How do numbers work? ===

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	== Pronunciation ==		== Pronunciation ==

	=== How many tones are there? ===		=== How many tones are there? What does the … tone do? ===
	~~Four~~.		There are four tones, but each one has various uses depending on the part of speech they are used with. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done\|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done\|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done\|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done\|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone]] for a thorough overview. <!--{{Tone table}}-->
	; See ~~article:~~ [[Tone]]

	~~=== What does tone X do? ===~~		=== How do you pronounce…? ===
	It depends. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done\|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done\|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done\|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done\|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone#The_four_tones]] for a thorough overview.

	~~<!--{{Tone table}}-->~~

	=== How do you ~~pronounce X~~? ===
	Please refer to https://toaq.net/refgram/phonology/.		Please refer to https://toaq.net/refgram/phonology/.

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	=== What's with the ı / i without dot / dotless i? ===		=== What's with the ı / i without dot / dotless i? ===
	Writing ı without the dot distinguishes it more from an i that carries a tone mark, it also makes more room for an adjacent tone mark. Overall, it just makes things easier to read.		Writing ı without the dot distinguishes it more from an i that carries a tone mark, it also makes more room for an adjacent tone mark. Overall, it just makes things easier to read. See [[Latin writing system]].
	; See ~~article:~~ [[Latin writing system]]

	== Grammar ==		== Grammar ==
			=== Can I fill fewer slots than a verb has? ===
			Probably! See [[Underfilling]].

			=== How do I skip slots? (What's the equivalent of Lojban's <code>FA</code>?) ===
			Toaq intentionally doesn't have this feature. Just fill the slots with [[pronoun]]s.

			=== How does {{t\|bọ}} work? What is the meaning / place structure of {{t\|bọdo}}? ===
			Semi-officially, it makes intransitive verbs, with only a slot for the direct object. See [[bo-]].

			=== How do numbers work? ===
			The official number system is that numbers are just verbs: {{t\|saq}} means "___ are three in number", so {{t\|Saq jío}} means "the buildings are three" and {{t\|sá jıo saq}} means "some buildings that are three" (three buildings).

			A more elaborate unofficial number system is described at [[User:Loekıa/Numbers]].
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	=== What's the difference between an indirect question and a {{t\|ꝡé}} phrase? ===		=== What's the difference between an indirect question and a {{t\|ꝡé}} phrase? ===
	The distinction is extremely important logically speaking, but English usually conflates the two, so many people overlook the difference. The following example illustrates the difference:		The distinction is extremely important logically speaking, but English usually conflates the two, so many people overlook the difference. The following example illustrates the difference:
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	# says that I know that you believe [God exists], because I know what it is that you believe		# says that I know that you believe [God exists], because I know what it is that you believe
	# says that I know that [God exists] is true, because I know that which you believe to be true.		# says that I know that [God exists] is true, because I know that which you believe to be true.
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	== Tools and resources ==		== Tools and resources ==
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	=== Is there a way to check whether my sentence is correct? / Is there a translator from Toaq to logic notation? ===		=== Is there a way to check whether my sentence is correct? / Is there a translator from Toaq to logic notation? ===
	You can use [[Kuna]] at https://toaq.net/kuna/.		You can use [[Kuna]]'s web interface [https://toaq.net/kuna/ here].

	=== How can I join the Discord server? ===		=== How can I join the [[Discord]] server? ===
	Use ~~this invite link:~~ https://discord.gg/qDqDsH9		Use [https://discord.gg/qDqDsH9 this invite link].
	~~; See article: [[Discord]~~]

	=== Is there a frequency list? ===		=== Is there a frequency list? ===
	Yes! https://github.com/toaq/corpus/blob/main/frequency-list.txt		Yes! See [https://github.com/toaq/corpus/blob/main/frequency-list.txt frequency-list.txt] in the [https://github.com/toaq/corpus/ corpus] repo.

	=== Is there a list of translated sentences? ===		=== Is there a list of translated sentences? ===
	~~We are working on it!~~ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bCQoaX02ZyaElHiiMcKHFemO4eV1MEYmYloYZgOAhac/edit#gid=1395088029		[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bCQoaX02ZyaElHiiMcKHFemO4eV1MEYmYloYZgOAhac/edit#gid=1395088029 This spreadsheet] has up-to-date example sentences in the "Refgram examples" and "A sentences" sheets. <!--


	<!--If you're on [[Discord]], you can also use commands like <code>%english %logic %structure</code> (for [[Zugaı]]) and <code>%miu</code> for the outdated [[Mıu]]; [[Nuogaı\|more bot commands are listed here]].-->

	~~<!--~~
	=== Where does the Toaq logo come from? ===		=== Where does the Toaq logo come from? ===
	✅ It's original.		✅ It's original.

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 === How many tones are there? ===
 Four.
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 === What does tone X do? ===
-✅ It depends. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone#The_four_tones]] for a thorough overview.
+It depends. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone#The_four_tones]] for a thorough overview.
 <!--{{Tone table}}-->
 === How do you pronounce X? ===
-✅ Please refer to https://toaq.net/refgram/phonology/.
+Please refer to https://toaq.net/refgram/phonology/.
 === Is there a way to check whether my sentence is correct? / Is there a translator from Toaq to logic notation? ===
-✅ You can use [[Kuna]] at https://toaq.net/kuna/.
+You can use [[Kuna]] at https://toaq.net/kuna/.
 <!--If you're on [[Discord]], you can also use commands like <code>%english %logic %structure</code> (for [[Zugaı]]) and <code>%miu</code> for the outdated [[Mıu]]; [[Nuogaı|more bot commands are listed here]].-->
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 Marking number is never required. It is usually obvious (or not terribly important) whether something is one thing or more than one thing. When in doubt, read a bare noun as plural unless context suggests otherwise.
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	=== How many tones are there? ===		=== How many tones are there? ===
	~~✅ 4 tones~~.		Four.
	; See article: [[Tone]]		; See article: [[Tone]]

	=== What does tone X do? ===		=== What does tone X do? ===
	✅ See ~~the following table:~~		✅ It depends. Simplifying things a lot, {{Done\|1}} is for particles and verbs, {{Done\|2}} is for particles and (pro)nouns, {{Done\|3}} marks subordination, and {{Done\|4}} is for adverbs. See [[Tone#The_four_tones]] for a thorough overview.

	{{Tone table}}		<!--{{Tone table}}-->

	=== How do you pronounce X? ===		=== How do you pronounce X? ===
	✅ Please refer to https://toaq.net/refgram/phonology/.		✅ Please refer to https://toaq.net/refgram/phonology/.

	=== Is there a way to check whether my sentence is correct? ===		=== Is there a way to check whether my sentence is correct? / Is there a translator from Toaq to logic notation? ===
	✅ ~~Yes, using one of the online parsers:~~		✅ You can use [[Kuna]] at https://toaq.net/kuna/.
	* https://toaq.net/~~zugai/ (Gamma, in-development, may lack some features, but produces detailed output)~~
	* https://~~toaq~~.~~net/peg/ (Beta, produces a simplistic tree; may accept some incorrect inputs)~~
	* https://toaq.herokuapp.com/ (outdated)

	If you're on [[Discord]], you can also use commands like <code>%english %logic %structure</code> (for [[Zugaı]]) and <code>%miu</code> for the outdated [[Mıu]]; [[Nuogaı\|more bot commands are listed here]].		<!--If you're on [[Discord]], you can also use commands like <code>%english %logic %structure</code> (for [[Zugaı]]) and <code>%miu</code> for the outdated [[Mıu]]; [[Nuogaı\|more bot commands are listed here]].-->

	=== How do I type the tone marks/symbols/diacritics? ===		=== How do I type the tone marks/symbols/diacritics? ===
	✅ Please see [[Input methods]].		✅ Please see [[Input methods]].

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	=== Where does the Toaq logo come from? ===		=== Where does the Toaq logo come from? ===
	✅ It's original.		✅ It's original.
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	=== What's the vowel order? ===		=== What's the vowel order? ===
	✅ {{t\|A U I O E}}		✅ {{t\|A U I O E}}
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	=== How can I join the ~~discord~~ server? ===		=== How can I join the Discord server? ===
	✅ Use this invite link: https://discord.gg/qDqDsH9		✅ Use this invite link: https://discord.gg/qDqDsH9
	; See article: [[Discord]]		; See article: [[Discord]]

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	=== What's the terminator of X? ===		=== What's the terminator of X? ===
	✅ Unlike some other loglangs like Lojban and Loglan, modern Toaq doesn't feature any terminators at all! Instead, clauses can be closed by [[Auto-terminating clauses\|filling every argument]], [[cleft]] structures, and connecting with a [[conjunction]] to another clause in the same scope.		✅ Unlike some other loglangs like Lojban and Loglan, modern Toaq doesn't feature any terminators at all! Instead, clauses can be closed by [[Auto-terminating clauses\|filling every argument]], [[cleft]] structures, and connecting with a [[conjunction]] to another clause in the same scope.
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	=== What's with the ı / i without dot / dotless i? ===		=== What's with the ı / i without dot / dotless i? ===
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	; See article: [[Latin writing system]]		; See article: [[Latin writing system]]

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	=== How do I do an indirect quote? ===		=== How do I do an indirect quote? ===
	✅ Use {{T\|ꝡä}}+predicate with {{T\|ruaq}} or {{T\|duatua}} for indirect assertions and {{T\|duasue}} for indirect questions:		✅ Use {{T\|ꝡä}}+predicate with {{T\|ruaq}} or {{T\|duatua}} for indirect assertions and {{T\|duasue}} for indirect questions:
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	=== Is there a memrise deck? ===		=== Is there a memrise deck? ===
	✅ There is, but it is outdated: https://www.memrise.com/course/1974691/toaq-simple-predicates-2018-06-03/		✅ There is, but it is outdated: https://www.memrise.com/course/1974691/toaq-simple-predicates-2018-06-03/
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	=== Is there a frequency list? ===		=== Is there a frequency list? ===
	✅ ~~Why yes~~! ~~Look here:~~ https://~~gist.~~github.com/~~lynn~~/~~c8c6f904d4e5c29a6b2533a7ac05680a~~		✅ Yes! https://github.com/toaq/corpus/blob/main/frequency-list.txt

	=== Is there a list of translated sentences? ===		=== Is there a list of translated sentences? ===
	✅ We are working on it!		✅ We are working on it! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bCQoaX02ZyaElHiiMcKHFemO4eV1MEYmYloYZgOAhac/edit#gid=1395088029

	~~See:~~ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bCQoaX02ZyaElHiiMcKHFemO4eV1MEYmYloYZgOAhac/edit#gid=1395088029

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	=== Is there a subreddit? ===		=== Is there a subreddit? ===
	✅ Yes: https://old.reddit.com/r/Toaq/		✅ Yes: https://old.reddit.com/r/Toaq/
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	*: Example: {{t\|jío puq}} "the [more than one] buildings" (explicit plural).		*: Example: {{t\|jío puq}} "the [more than one] buildings" (explicit plural).
	Marking number is never required. It is usually obvious (or not terribly important) whether something is one thing or more than one thing. When in doubt, read a bare noun as plural unless context suggests otherwise.		Marking number is never required. It is usually obvious (or not terribly important) whether something is one thing or more than one thing. When in doubt, read a bare noun as plural unless context suggests otherwise.
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	=== What's up with the letter {{t\|q}} in this language? Pronunciation of {{t\|q}} ===		=== What's up with the letter {{t\|q}} in this language? Pronunciation of {{t\|q}} ===
	✅ {{t\|q}} is somewhat special and its pronunciation may not be immediately obvious. It is pronounced like English ⟨ng⟩ (IPA [ŋ]). The use of the letter Q is a nod to [https://loglangs.wiki/Ceqli Rex May’s Ceqli], an international auxiliary language with loglang elements; it’s also found in natural languages such as Fijian (where it represents [ᵑɡ], to be exact).		✅ {{t\|q}} is somewhat special and its pronunciation may not be immediately obvious. It is pronounced like English ⟨ng⟩ (IPA [ŋ]). The use of the letter Q is a nod to [https://loglangs.wiki/Ceqli Rex May’s Ceqli], an international auxiliary language with loglang elements; it’s also found in natural languages such as Fijian (where it represents [ᵑɡ], to be exact).

	Unlike previous versions of Toaq, {{t\|q}} does not have any allophonic variation - that is, it is always [ŋ] - because syllables may also end with {{t\|m}}, which needs to stay distinct.		<!-- Unlike previous versions of Toaq, {{t\|q}} does not have any allophonic variation - that is, it is always [ŋ] - because syllables may also end with {{t\|m}}, which needs to stay distinct. -->

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	=== What are the words for the days of the week and for the months? ===		=== What are the words for the days of the week and for the months? ===
	✅ The names for the days of the week are based on the colors of the rainbow, starting with red on Monday and ending with purple on Sunday:		✅ The names for the days of the week are based on the colors of the rainbow, starting with red on Monday and ending with purple on Sunday:
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	\| December \|\| {{t\|heıgujue}}		\| December \|\| {{t\|heıgujue}}
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	=== What's the difference between an indirect question and a {{t\|ꝡé}} phrase? ===		=== What's the difference between an indirect question and a {{t\|ꝡé}} phrase? ===
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	# says that I know that [God exists] is true, because I know that which you believe to be true.		# says that I know that [God exists] is true, because I know that which you believe to be true.

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