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Mỉ Mỉao ga Nhäqpy: GammaOnly

2025-08-24T17:46:23Z

GammaOnly

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	'''Full Arguments''' is a proposal to merge the {{tone\|6}} and {{tone\|7}} tones (say, into {{tone\|6}}).		'''Full Arguments''' is a proposal to merge the {{tone\|6}} and {{tone\|7}} tones (say, into {{tone\|6}}).

Mỉ Mỉao ga Nhäqpy: toaq delta t4

2023-11-04T16:33:33Z

toaq delta t4

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	The difficulty with this proposal is that there are a few verbs which make sense both as adverbs and prepositions, for example {{t\|ào}} and {{t\|ão}}.		The difficulty with this proposal is that there are a few verbs which make sense both as adverbs and prepositions, for example {{t\|ào}} and {{t\|ão}}.

			This has more-or-less been adopted in Toaq Delta as {{done\|4}}.

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[Auto-terminating clauses]]		* [[Auto-terminating clauses]]

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2022-10-01T17:41:33Z

Auto-terminating clauses

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	The difficulty with this proposal is that there are a few verbs which make sense both as adverbs and prepositions, for example {{t\|ào}} and {{t\|ão}}.		The difficulty with this proposal is that there are a few verbs which make sense both as adverbs and prepositions, for example {{t\|ào}} and {{t\|ão}}.

	== ~~Auto-terminating clauses~~ ==		== See also ==
	~~A similar idea sometimes rolled into the name Full Arguments is that of '''auto~~-terminating clauses~~'''.~~		* [[Auto-terminating clauses]]

	~~The idea is that you don't need to say {{t\|cy}} when a subclause verb has all its arguments filled.~~

	~~You know that the next argument must belong to the outer clause, because the inner clause can't take any more arguments.~~

	~~{{Example\|Mẻoca {{blue\|lôı súq nháo}} jí.\|{{blue\|The fact that you hate them}} saddens me.}}~~

	~~It would be ungrammatical for {{t\|jí}} to be a third argument to {{t\|loı}}, which is "full" — so it must be a second argument to {{t\|meoca}}.~~

Laqme: Auto-terminating clauses

2022-10-01T17:37:35Z

Auto-terminating clauses

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	The new tone would turn intransitive verbs into [[adverb]]s, and transitive verbs into [[preposition]]s:		The new tone would turn intransitive verbs into [[adverb]]s, and transitive verbs into [[preposition]]s:

	{{Example\|Sủaq dè súq tì sóaq.\|You sing beautifully in the garden.}}		{{Example\|Sủaq {{pink\|dè}} súq {{blue\|tì sóaq}}.\|You sing {{pink\|beautifully}} {{blue\|in the garden}}.}}

	Here, {{t\|dè}} is intransitive so it does not take {{t\|súq}} as its complement, but {{t\|tì}} is transitive so it takes {{t\|sóaq}} as its complement.		Here, {{t\|dè}} is intransitive so it does not take {{t\|súq}} as its complement, but {{t\|tì}} is transitive so it takes {{t\|sóaq}} as its complement.
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	The difficulty with this proposal is that there are a few verbs which make sense both as adverbs and prepositions, for example {{t\|ào}} and {{t\|ão}}.		The difficulty with this proposal is that there are a few verbs which make sense both as adverbs and prepositions, for example {{t\|ào}} and {{t\|ão}}.

			== Auto-terminating clauses ==
			A similar idea sometimes rolled into the name Full Arguments is that of '''auto-terminating clauses'''.

			The idea is that you don't need to say {{t\|cy}} when a subclause verb has all its arguments filled.

			You know that the next argument must belong to the outer clause, because the inner clause can't take any more arguments.

			{{Example\|Mẻoca {{blue\|lôı súq nháo}} jí.\|{{blue\|The fact that you hate them}} saddens me.}}

			It would be ungrammatical for {{t\|jí}} to be a third argument to {{t\|loı}}, which is "full" — so it must be a second argument to {{t\|meoca}}.

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2022-10-01T17:10:58Z

Created page with "'''Full Arguments''' is a proposal to merge the {{tone|6}} and {{tone|7}} tones (say, into {{tone|6}}). The new tone would turn intransitive verbs into adverbs, and transitive verbs into prepositions: {{Example|Sủaq dè súq tì sóaq.|You sing beautifully in the garden.}} Here, {{t|dè}} is intransitive so it does not take {{t|súq}} as its complement, but {{t|tì}} is transitive so it takes {{t|sóaq}} as its complement. Effectively, there is now only one..."

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'''Full Arguments''' is a proposal to merge the {{tone|6}} and {{tone|7}} tones (say, into {{tone|6}}).

The new tone would turn intransitive verbs into [[adverb]]s, and transitive verbs into [[preposition]]s:

{{Example|Sủaq dè súq tì sóaq.|You sing beautifully in the garden.}}

Here, {{t|dè}} is intransitive so it does not take {{t|súq}} as its complement, but {{t|tì}} is transitive so it takes {{t|sóaq}} as its complement.

Effectively, there is now only one kind of "adverbial", which consumes as many arguments as the verb can still hold (after filling the subject with the [[event variable]]) — hence the name.

The difficulty with this proposal is that there are a few verbs which make sense both as adverbs and prepositions, for example {{t|ào}} and {{t|ão}}.