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Laqme: remove first-person language

2025-02-25T19:12:52Z

remove first-person language

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	Officially, Toaq Delta has nothing to say about how numbers work. ~~So, here~~'s my unofficial proposal for a number system!		Officially, Toaq Delta has nothing to say about how numbers work. '''Kıazıu''' is [[User:Loekıa]]'s unofficial but popular proposal for a number system.

	== Background ==		== Background ==
	In previous versions of Toaq, numbers took the form of '''verbs of cardinality''' (e.g. {{T\|heı}} was "to be ten in number"). But this system was limited: it made it awkward to talk about numbers in the abstract, and gave us no natural way to extend the system to more "exotic" numbers like the negative integers, non-integers, or even zero for that matter.		In previous versions of Toaq, numbers took the form of '''verbs of cardinality''' (e.g. {{T\|heı}} was "to be ten in number"). But this system was limited: it made it awkward to talk about numbers in the abstract, and gave us no natural way to extend the system to more "exotic" numbers like the negative integers, non-integers, or even zero for that matter.

	There have been plenty of number system proposals in the past (particularly in the days of Toaq Beta), but now that we have prefixes to play with and special grammar for pronouns, ~~I think~~ Delta has given us the chance to do even better.		There have been plenty of number system proposals in the past (particularly in the days of Toaq Beta), but now that we have prefixes to play with and special grammar for pronouns, Delta has given us the chance to do even better.

	== The basics ==		== The basics ==

Laqme: Laqme moved page User:Loekıa/Numbers to Kıazıu

2025-02-25T19:11:23Z

Laqme moved page User:Loekıa/Numbers to Kıazıu

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Loekıa: learn how to deranize

2024-09-25T03:08:08Z

learn how to deranize

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	Another important prefix is {{Dr\|ko-}}. It forms '''ordinals''', much like the English suffix '-th'.		Another important prefix is {{Dr\|ko-}}. It forms '''ordinals''', much like the English suffix '-th'.

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Kọsaq máq ké buajıo tı hû tıeq.}}\|It's the third house on the street (third out of the houses on the street).}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Kọsaq máq ké [buajıo] tı hû [tıeq].}}\|It's the third house on the street (third out of the houses on the street).}}

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Bọdana níjuı kộshı túq doaq po ní gua.}}\|This city was the first in this country to fall.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Bọdana níjuı* kộshı túq [doaq] po ní [gua].}}\|This city was the first in this country to fall.}}

	Finally, the prefix {{Dr\|nho-}} turns a number into a determiner:		Finally, the prefix {{Dr\|nho-}} turns a number into a determiner:

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́gu gochıq.}}\|She has two cats.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́gu [gochıq].}}\|She has two cats.}}

	This prefix also comes with a null allomorph which can be used as long as the determiner has a complement. So, normally we'd see this written as simply {{Dr\|gú gochıq}}.		This prefix also comes with a null allomorph which can be used as long as the determiner has a complement. So, normally we'd see this written as simply {{Dr\|gú [gochıq]}}.

	== Counting higher ==		== Counting higher ==
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	To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Dr\|heı}} and {{Dr\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Dr\|bıq}}, {{Dr\|nhoeı}}, {{Dr\|gıga}}, {{Dr\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Dr\|heı}} and {{Dr\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Dr\|bıq}}, {{Dr\|nhoeı}}, {{Dr\|gıga}}, {{Dr\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq [req] ní [doaq].}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Sho cueq [Bétatoaq] râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}

	== Negatives and decimals ==		== Negatives and decimals ==
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	== Sums ==		== Sums ==
	Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Dr\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Dr\|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example\|{{Dr\|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}		Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Dr\|[Fáfuaq] mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Dr\|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example\|{{Dr\|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta [nao].}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
	== Pseudo-numbers ==		== Pseudo-numbers ==
	Some words like {{Dr\|puı}} and {{Dr\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Dr\|ne-}} and {{Dr\|nho-}}.		Some words like {{Dr\|puı}} and {{Dr\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Dr\|ne-}} and {{Dr\|nho-}}.

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}
	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Guache kọtıopuı [~~mí_Lıqkoq~~]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Guache kọtıopuı [mí Lıqkoq]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}

	== Writing conventions ==		== Writing conventions ==
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	* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Dr\|gúheı jo}}).		* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Dr\|gúheı jo}}).
	* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Dr\|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Dr\|guheı jo}} → {{Dr\|nẹ24}}).		* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Dr\|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Dr\|guheı jo}} → {{Dr\|nẹ24}}).
	* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have its {{Dr\|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Dr\|kıaı gû gochıq}} → {{Dr\|kıaı nhộ2 gochıq}}).		* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have its {{Dr\|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Dr\|kıaı gû [gochıq]}} → {{Dr\|kıaı nhộ2 [gochıq]}}).
	* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have the prefix {{Dr\|no-}} added ({{Dr\|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Dr\|Huaq nộ2 3}}).		* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have the prefix {{Dr\|no-}} added ({{Dr\|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Dr\|Huaq nộ2 3}}).

Loekıa: Apply Derani diphthong reform

2024-09-25T01:47:25Z

Apply Derani diphthong reform

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Loekıa: Swap jem- out for juı-

2024-08-16T13:41:35Z

Swap jem- out for juı-

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	To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Deranize\|bıq}}, {{Deranize\|nhoeı}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Deranize\|bıq}}, {{Deranize\|nhoeı}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Chum bua ~~jẹ́mshı~~ nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}

Loekıa: Make example use new number segmentation rules

2024-08-16T13:40:24Z

Make example use new number segmentation rules

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	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}
	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú ~~gúcoshı~~ kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gú co shı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}

	They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":		They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":

Loekıa: Split digits into separate words and document some writing conventions

2024-07-02T21:10:54Z

Split digits into separate words and document some writing conventions

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	== Background ==		== Background ==
	In previous versions of Toaq, numbers took the form of '''verbs of cardinality''' (e.g. {{T\|heı}} was "to be ten in number"). But this system was ~~far from perfect~~: it made it awkward to talk about numbers in the abstract, and gave us no natural way to extend the system to more "exotic" numbers like the negative integers, non-integers, or even zero for that matter.		In previous versions of Toaq, numbers took the form of '''verbs of cardinality''' (e.g. {{T\|heı}} was "to be ten in number"). But this system was limited: it made it awkward to talk about numbers in the abstract, and gave us no natural way to extend the system to more "exotic" numbers like the negative integers, non-integers, or even zero for that matter.

	~~Now, there~~ have been plenty of number system proposals in the past (particularly in the days of Toaq Beta), but now that we have prefixes to play with and special grammar for pronouns, I think Delta has given us the chance to do even better.		There have been plenty of number system proposals in the past (particularly in the days of Toaq Beta), but now that we have prefixes to play with and special grammar for pronouns, I think Delta has given us the chance to do even better.

	== The basics ==		== The basics ==
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	== Counting higher ==		== Counting higher ==
	To form larger numbers ~~(up to 9999)~~, ~~digits are accompanied by~~ a ~~scale:~~ {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} ~~for tens~~, {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}} for ~~hundreds, and {{Derani\|󱚲󱚹󱛂\|bıq}} for thousands. For~~ example, ~~1234~~ would be spoken as {{~~Derani\|󱛀󱛊󱚹󱚲󱚹󱛂󱛃󱚲󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴󱚺󱚺󱛂󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹󱚾󱛃~~\|~~shíbıqgufuesaqheıjo~~}}. Note that we never write out {{~~Derani~~\|~~󱛄󱛊󱛃󱛍󱚺󱚱\|kóam~~}} as a digit, and {{Derani\|󱛀󱚹󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|shıheı}} may be abbreviated to {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}}~~. This means that we can write [[Timeline\|the year that Toaq Beta was released]] as~~ {{Derani\|~~󱛄󱛊󱛃󱛒󱛃󱚲󱚲󱚹󱛂󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹󱚶󱚹󱛍󱚺󱛎󱚹~~\|~~kọ́gubıqheıdıaı~~}}.		To form larger numbers, the golden rule is "each digit is a word". The tens place is marked with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}}, and the hundreds place with {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}. So for example, 123 would be spoken as {{Deranize\|shífue guheı saq}}. Note that we never write out {{Deranize\|koam}} as a digit, and {{Derani\|󱛀󱚹󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|shıheı}} and {{Deranize\|shıfue}} may be abbreviated to simply {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}.

	To form ''even larger'' numbers, put the appropriate ~~SI prefix~~ ({{~~Derani~~\|~~󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺~~\|~~mega~~}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Deranize\|bıq}}, {{Deranize\|nhoeı}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	~~In more colloquial usage,~~ {{~~Deranize~~\|~~shıfue}},~~ {{Deranize\|~~shıbıq~~}}, ~~and even {{Deranize\|shımega~~}} ~~might be abbreviated to~~ {{~~Derani~~\|~~󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}},~~ {{~~Derani\|󱚲󱚹󱛂~~\|bıq}}~~, {{Derani~~\|~~󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺~~\|~~mega~~}}.		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Chum bua jẹ́mshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}

			{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}

	== Negatives and decimals ==		== Negatives and decimals ==
	Negatives are formed with the prefix {{Deranize\|ze-}}. The ~~number component~~ {{Deranize\|co}} is a spoken decimal point. The resulting numbers are not cardinal numbers, ~~and~~ so they're ~~only~~ useful as pronouns.		Negatives are formed with the prefix {{Deranize\|ze-}}. The word {{Deranize\|co}} is a spoken decimal point. The resulting numbers are not cardinal numbers, so they're mostly useful as pronouns.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Zıuhuaq zẹ́saq ~~zẹ́jocogu~~.}}\|The number −3 is greater than the number −4.2.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Zıuhuaq zẹ́saq zẹ́jo co gu.}}\|The number −3 is greater than the number −4.2.}}

	The ~~number component~~ {{Deranize\|chıo}} marks the start of repeating decimals.		The word {{Deranize\|chıo}} marks the start of repeating decimals.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|~~shícogusaqchıojofe~~}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|shí co gu saq chıo jo fe}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}

	== Units ==		== Units ==
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	== Fractions ==		== Fractions ==
	The prefix {{Deranize\|~~paq~~-}} ~~turns a number ''x'' into the fractional unit ''x⁻¹'', and must always be accompanying a numerator. For~~ example, {{Deranize\|fé ~~pạqcı~~}} is the number 5/6.		The prefix {{Deranize\|peo-}} can also form fractions: for example, {{Deranize\|fé pẹocı}} is the number 5/6, and {{Deranize\|shí pẹofue}} is 1%. Just as a quantity requires both a number and a unit, a fraction requires both a numerator and denominator; {{Deranize\|pẹofue}} isn't particularly meaningful on its own.

	Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı ~~pạqsaq~~ meta}}, {{Deranize\|~~pạqsaq~~}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.		Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı pẹosaq meta}}, {{Deranize\|pẹosaq}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.

	== ~~Composite expressions~~ ==		== Sums ==
	Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities ~~sum~~ when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora ~~heıjo~~ mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}~~The same goes for fractional numbers~~:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Luı pıe jí shí shı ~~pạqgu~~ lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}		Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Deranize\|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
	== Pseudo-numbers ==		== Pseudo-numbers ==
	Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.		Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.
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	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}
	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Guache kọtıopuı [mí_Lıqkoq]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Guache kọtıopuı [mí_Lıqkoq]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}

			== Writing conventions ==
			Of course, numbers are cumbersome to spell out in full, so we normally just write them with Arabic numerals. Toaq uses the dot "." as a decimal separator and the comma "," to divide groups of three digits, as in "10,000.56".

			One challenge when using Arabic numerals is where to put the tone marks: numbers can appear in different tones, and computers in particular have a hard time inserting and displaying diacritics on top of numbers. For this reason, we adopt the following conventions:

			* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Deranize\|gúheı jo}}).
			* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Deranize\|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Deranize\|guheı jo}} → {{Deranize\|nẹ24}}).
			* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have its {{Deranize\|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Deranize\|kıaı gû gochıq}} → {{Deranize\|kıaı nhộ2 gochıq}}).
			* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have the prefix {{Deranize\|no-}} added ({{Deranize\|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Deranize\|Huaq nộ2 3}}).

The&System: Fractions must always be accompanying a numerator.

2024-07-02T16:09:41Z

Fractions must always be accompanying a numerator.

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	== Fractions ==		== Fractions ==
	The prefix {{Deranize\|paq-}} turns a number ''x'' into the fractional unit ''x⁻¹''. For example, {{Deranize\|fé pạqcı}} is the number 5/6.		The prefix {{Deranize\|paq-}} turns a number ''x'' into the fractional unit ''x⁻¹'', and must always be accompanying a numerator. For example, {{Deranize\|fé pạqcı}} is the number 5/6.

	Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı pạqsaq meta}}, {{Deranize\|pạqsaq}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.		Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı pạqsaq meta}}, {{Deranize\|pạqsaq}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.

Loekıa: Restrict unit grammar and allow for composite expressions

2024-07-02T15:50:37Z

Restrict unit grammar and allow for composite expressions

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	To form ''even larger'' numbers, put the appropriate SI prefix ({{Derani\|󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺\|mega}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, put the appropriate SI prefix ({{Derani\|󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺\|mega}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	~~== Avoiding long words ==~~		In more colloquial usage, {{Deranize\|shıfue}}, {{Deranize\|shıbıq}}, and even {{Deranize\|shımega}} might be abbreviated to {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, {{Derani\|󱚲󱚹󱛂\|bıq}}, {{Derani\|󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺\|mega}}.
	~~When number words follow each other~~, ~~forming what looks like a serial verb, the result is the same as though you had said one long word.~~

	{{~~Example~~\|{{Deranize\|~~Nẹgubıqfefueshı nhána.~~}}\|~~There are 2,501 of them.~~}}

	{{~~Example~~\|{{~~Deranize~~\|~~Nẹgubıq fefue shı nhána.~~}}\|~~There are 2,501 of them.~~}}

	== Negatives and decimals ==		== Negatives and decimals ==
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	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|shícogusaqchıojofe}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|shícogusaqchıojofe}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}

	~~== Fractions ==~~
	~~The prefix {{Deranize\|peo-}} turns a number ''x'' into ''1/x''. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹ́ocı}} is the number 1/6.~~

	~~When another number word is placed in front of the result, it acts like a multiplication: {{Deranize\|fé pẹocı}} is the number 5/6.~~

	== Units ==		== Units ==
	Units like {{Deranize\|meta}} (meter) and {{Deranize\|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and ~~can~~ be ~~multiplied by~~ a ~~preceding~~ number.		Units like {{Deranize\|meta}} (meter) and {{Deranize\|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and must be paired with a number to form a '''quantity'''.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}
	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gúcoshı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gúcoshı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}

	They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|~~pẹ́ometa~~}} is the ~~quantity 1~~ m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty ~~times~~ kilometer ~~times 1/hour~~":		They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Suaıne kú cíheı kılometa pẹohora.}}\|The speed is 60 km/h.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Suaıne kú cíheı kılometa pẹohora.}}\|The speed is 60 km/h.}}

			== Fractions ==
			The prefix {{Deranize\|paq-}} turns a number ''x'' into the fractional unit ''x⁻¹''. For example, {{Deranize\|fé pạqcı}} is the number 5/6.

			Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı pạqsaq meta}}, {{Deranize\|pạqsaq}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.

			== Composite expressions ==
			Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities sum when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heıjo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}The same goes for fractional numbers:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Luı pıe jí shí shı pạqgu lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
	== Pseudo-numbers ==		== Pseudo-numbers ==
	Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.		Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.

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	Units like {{Deranize\|meta}} (meter) and {{Deranize\|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and can be multiplied by a preceding number.		Units like {{Deranize\|meta}} (meter) and {{Deranize\|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and can be multiplied by a preceding number.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú ~~śaqjue~~ meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}
	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gúcoshı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gúcoshı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}

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	Another important prefix is {{Dr\|ko-}}. It forms '''ordinals''', much like the English suffix '-th'.		Another important prefix is {{Dr\|ko-}}. It forms '''ordinals''', much like the English suffix '-th'.

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Kọsaq máq ké buajıo tı hû tıeq.}}\|It's the third house on the street (third out of the houses on the street).}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Kọsaq máq ké [buajıo] tı hû [tıeq].}}\|It's the third house on the street (third out of the houses on the street).}}

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Bọdana níjuı kộshı túq doaq po ní gua.}}\|This city was the first in this country to fall.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Bọdana níjuı* kộshı túq [doaq] po ní [gua].}}\|This city was the first in this country to fall.}}

	Finally, the prefix {{Dr\|nho-}} turns a number into a determiner:		Finally, the prefix {{Dr\|nho-}} turns a number into a determiner:

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́gu gochıq.}}\|She has two cats.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́gu [gochıq].}}\|She has two cats.}}

	This prefix also comes with a null allomorph which can be used as long as the determiner has a complement. So, normally we'd see this written as simply {{Dr\|gú gochıq}}.		This prefix also comes with a null allomorph which can be used as long as the determiner has a complement. So, normally we'd see this written as simply {{Dr\|gú [gochıq]}}.

	== Counting higher ==		== Counting higher ==
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	To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Dr\|heı}} and {{Dr\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Dr\|bıq}}, {{Dr\|nhoeı}}, {{Dr\|gıga}}, {{Dr\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Dr\|heı}} and {{Dr\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Dr\|bıq}}, {{Dr\|nhoeı}}, {{Dr\|gıga}}, {{Dr\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq [req] ní [doaq].}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Sho cueq [Bétatoaq] râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}

	== Negatives and decimals ==		== Negatives and decimals ==
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	== Sums ==		== Sums ==
	Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Dr\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Dr\|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example\|{{Dr\|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}		Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Dr\|[Fáfuaq] mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Dr\|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example\|{{Dr\|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta [nao].}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
	== Pseudo-numbers ==		== Pseudo-numbers ==
	Some words like {{Dr\|puı}} and {{Dr\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Dr\|ne-}} and {{Dr\|nho-}}.		Some words like {{Dr\|puı}} and {{Dr\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Dr\|ne-}} and {{Dr\|nho-}}.

	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}
	{{Example\|{{Dr\|Guache kọtıopuı [~~mí_Lıqkoq~~]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}		{{Example\|{{Dr\|Guache kọtıopuı [mí Lıqkoq]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}

	== Writing conventions ==		== Writing conventions ==
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	* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Dr\|gúheı jo}}).		* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Dr\|gúheı jo}}).
	* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Dr\|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Dr\|guheı jo}} → {{Dr\|nẹ24}}).		* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Dr\|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Dr\|guheı jo}} → {{Dr\|nẹ24}}).
	* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have its {{Dr\|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Dr\|kıaı gû gochıq}} → {{Dr\|kıaı nhộ2 gochıq}}).		* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have its {{Dr\|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Dr\|kıaı gû [gochıq]}} → {{Dr\|kıaı nhộ2 [gochıq]}}).
	* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have the prefix {{Dr\|no-}} added ({{Dr\|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Dr\|Huaq nộ2 3}}).		* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have the prefix {{Dr\|no-}} added ({{Dr\|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Dr\|Huaq nộ2 3}}).

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	To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Deranize\|bıq}}, {{Deranize\|nhoeı}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Deranize\|bıq}}, {{Deranize\|nhoeı}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Chum bua ~~jẹ́mshı~~ nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}

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	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}
	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú ~~gúcoshı~~ kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gú co shı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}

	They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":		They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":

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	== Background ==		== Background ==
	In previous versions of Toaq, numbers took the form of '''verbs of cardinality''' (e.g. {{T\|heı}} was "to be ten in number"). But this system was ~~far from perfect~~: it made it awkward to talk about numbers in the abstract, and gave us no natural way to extend the system to more "exotic" numbers like the negative integers, non-integers, or even zero for that matter.		In previous versions of Toaq, numbers took the form of '''verbs of cardinality''' (e.g. {{T\|heı}} was "to be ten in number"). But this system was limited: it made it awkward to talk about numbers in the abstract, and gave us no natural way to extend the system to more "exotic" numbers like the negative integers, non-integers, or even zero for that matter.

	~~Now, there~~ have been plenty of number system proposals in the past (particularly in the days of Toaq Beta), but now that we have prefixes to play with and special grammar for pronouns, I think Delta has given us the chance to do even better.		There have been plenty of number system proposals in the past (particularly in the days of Toaq Beta), but now that we have prefixes to play with and special grammar for pronouns, I think Delta has given us the chance to do even better.

	== The basics ==		== The basics ==
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	== Counting higher ==		== Counting higher ==
	To form larger numbers ~~(up to 9999)~~, ~~digits are accompanied by~~ a ~~scale:~~ {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} ~~for tens~~, {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}} for ~~hundreds, and {{Derani\|󱚲󱚹󱛂\|bıq}} for thousands. For~~ example, ~~1234~~ would be spoken as {{~~Derani\|󱛀󱛊󱚹󱚲󱚹󱛂󱛃󱚲󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴󱚺󱚺󱛂󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹󱚾󱛃~~\|~~shíbıqgufuesaqheıjo~~}}. Note that we never write out {{~~Derani~~\|~~󱛄󱛊󱛃󱛍󱚺󱚱\|kóam~~}} as a digit, and {{Derani\|󱛀󱚹󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|shıheı}} may be abbreviated to {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}}~~. This means that we can write [[Timeline\|the year that Toaq Beta was released]] as~~ {{Derani\|~~󱛄󱛊󱛃󱛒󱛃󱚲󱚲󱚹󱛂󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹󱚶󱚹󱛍󱚺󱛎󱚹~~\|~~kọ́gubıqheıdıaı~~}}.		To form larger numbers, the golden rule is "each digit is a word". The tens place is marked with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}}, and the hundreds place with {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}. So for example, 123 would be spoken as {{Deranize\|shífue guheı saq}}. Note that we never write out {{Deranize\|koam}} as a digit, and {{Derani\|󱛀󱚹󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|shıheı}} and {{Deranize\|shıfue}} may be abbreviated to simply {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}.

	To form ''even larger'' numbers, put the appropriate ~~SI prefix~~ ({{~~Derani~~\|~~󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺~~\|~~mega~~}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Derani\|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹\|heı}} and {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Deranize\|bıq}}, {{Deranize\|nhoeı}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	~~In more colloquial usage,~~ {{~~Deranize~~\|~~shıfue}},~~ {{Deranize\|~~shıbıq~~}}, ~~and even {{Deranize\|shımega~~}} ~~might be abbreviated to~~ {{~~Derani~~\|~~󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}},~~ {{~~Derani\|󱚲󱚹󱛂~~\|bıq}}~~, {{Derani~~\|~~󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺~~\|~~mega~~}}.		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Chum bua jẹ́mshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}\|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}

			{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}\|Toaq Beta [[Timeline\|was released]] in 2017.}}

	== Negatives and decimals ==		== Negatives and decimals ==
	Negatives are formed with the prefix {{Deranize\|ze-}}. The ~~number component~~ {{Deranize\|co}} is a spoken decimal point. The resulting numbers are not cardinal numbers, ~~and~~ so they're ~~only~~ useful as pronouns.		Negatives are formed with the prefix {{Deranize\|ze-}}. The word {{Deranize\|co}} is a spoken decimal point. The resulting numbers are not cardinal numbers, so they're mostly useful as pronouns.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Zıuhuaq zẹ́saq ~~zẹ́jocogu~~.}}\|The number −3 is greater than the number −4.2.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Zıuhuaq zẹ́saq zẹ́jo co gu.}}\|The number −3 is greater than the number −4.2.}}

	The ~~number component~~ {{Deranize\|chıo}} marks the start of repeating decimals.		The word {{Deranize\|chıo}} marks the start of repeating decimals.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|~~shícogusaqchıojofe~~}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|shí co gu saq chıo jo fe}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}

	== Units ==		== Units ==
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	== Fractions ==		== Fractions ==
	The prefix {{Deranize\|~~paq~~-}} ~~turns a number ''x'' into the fractional unit ''x⁻¹'', and must always be accompanying a numerator. For~~ example, {{Deranize\|fé ~~pạqcı~~}} is the number 5/6.		The prefix {{Deranize\|peo-}} can also form fractions: for example, {{Deranize\|fé pẹocı}} is the number 5/6, and {{Deranize\|shí pẹofue}} is 1%. Just as a quantity requires both a number and a unit, a fraction requires both a numerator and denominator; {{Deranize\|pẹofue}} isn't particularly meaningful on its own.

	Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı ~~pạqsaq~~ meta}}, {{Deranize\|~~pạqsaq~~}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.		Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı pẹosaq meta}}, {{Deranize\|pẹosaq}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.

	== ~~Composite expressions~~ ==		== Sums ==
	Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities ~~sum~~ when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora ~~heıjo~~ mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}~~The same goes for fractional numbers~~:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Luı pıe jí shí shı ~~pạqgu~~ lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}		Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Deranize\|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
	== Pseudo-numbers ==		== Pseudo-numbers ==
	Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.		Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.
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	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}\|She has many cats.}}
	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Guache kọtıopuı [mí_Lıqkoq]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Guache kọtıopuı [mí_Lıqkoq]?}}\|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}

			== Writing conventions ==
			Of course, numbers are cumbersome to spell out in full, so we normally just write them with Arabic numerals. Toaq uses the dot "." as a decimal separator and the comma "," to divide groups of three digits, as in "10,000.56".

			One challenge when using Arabic numerals is where to put the tone marks: numbers can appear in different tones, and computers in particular have a hard time inserting and displaying diacritics on top of numbers. For this reason, we adopt the following conventions:

			* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Deranize\|gúheı jo}}).
			* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Deranize\|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Deranize\|guheı jo}} → {{Deranize\|nẹ24}}).
			* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have its {{Deranize\|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Deranize\|kıaı gû gochıq}} → {{Deranize\|kıaı nhộ2 gochıq}}).
			* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done\|4}} should have the prefix {{Deranize\|no-}} added ({{Deranize\|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Deranize\|Huaq nộ2 3}}).

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	To form ''even larger'' numbers, put the appropriate SI prefix ({{Derani\|󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺\|mega}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.		To form ''even larger'' numbers, put the appropriate SI prefix ({{Derani\|󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺\|mega}}, {{Derani\|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺\|gıga}}, {{Derani\|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺\|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.

	~~== Avoiding long words ==~~		In more colloquial usage, {{Deranize\|shıfue}}, {{Deranize\|shıbıq}}, and even {{Deranize\|shımega}} might be abbreviated to {{Derani\|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴\|fue}}, {{Derani\|󱚲󱚹󱛂\|bıq}}, {{Derani\|󱚰󱚴󱛃󱚺\|mega}}.
	~~When number words follow each other~~, ~~forming what looks like a serial verb, the result is the same as though you had said one long word.~~

	{{~~Example~~\|{{Deranize\|~~Nẹgubıqfefueshı nhána.~~}}\|~~There are 2,501 of them.~~}}

	{{~~Example~~\|{{~~Deranize~~\|~~Nẹgubıq fefue shı nhána.~~}}\|~~There are 2,501 of them.~~}}

	== Negatives and decimals ==		== Negatives and decimals ==
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	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|shícogusaqchıojofe}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|shícogusaqchıojofe}}\|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}

	~~== Fractions ==~~
	~~The prefix {{Deranize\|peo-}} turns a number ''x'' into ''1/x''. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹ́ocı}} is the number 1/6.~~

	~~When another number word is placed in front of the result, it acts like a multiplication: {{Deranize\|fé pẹocı}} is the number 5/6.~~

	== Units ==		== Units ==
	Units like {{Deranize\|meta}} (meter) and {{Deranize\|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and ~~can~~ be ~~multiplied by~~ a ~~preceding~~ number.		Units like {{Deranize\|meta}} (meter) and {{Deranize\|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and must be paired with a number to form a '''quantity'''.

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}\|The length is 30 meters.}}
	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gúcoshı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Cabaq kú gúcoshı kılobata hora.}}\|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}

	They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|~~pẹ́ometa~~}} is the ~~quantity 1~~ m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty ~~times~~ kilometer ~~times 1/hour~~":		They can also be inverted with {{Deranize\|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize\|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":

	{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Suaıne kú cíheı kılometa pẹohora.}}\|The speed is 60 km/h.}}		{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Suaıne kú cíheı kılometa pẹohora.}}\|The speed is 60 km/h.}}

			== Fractions ==
			The prefix {{Deranize\|paq-}} turns a number ''x'' into the fractional unit ''x⁻¹''. For example, {{Deranize\|fé pạqcı}} is the number 5/6.

			Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize\|róaı pạqsaq meta}}, {{Deranize\|pạqsaq}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize\|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.

			== Composite expressions ==
			Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities sum when put next to each other:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heıjo mınu da.}}\|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}The same goes for fractional numbers:{{Example\|{{Deranize\|Luı pıe jí shí shı pạqgu lıta nao.}}\|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
	== Pseudo-numbers ==		== Pseudo-numbers ==
	Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.		Some words like {{Deranize\|puı}} and {{Deranize\|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize\|ne-}} and {{Deranize\|nho-}}.