Main verb tone - Revision history

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	The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' was a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.		The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' was a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.

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	The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' was a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.		The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' was a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.

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-The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' is a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.
+{{Hatnote|This page was written for [[Toaq Gamma]]. It describes a feature that did not end up being included in the latest version of Toaq, [[Toaq Delta]].}}
 This would make {{tone|4}} purely a "post-determiner and serial-verb-making tone."
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 * Main verbs get {{tone|6}}, with {{tone|3old}} as an optional allotone.
 * Content clauses get {{tone|7}} or {{tone|3}} (they can merge to a single creaky tone).

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	The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' is a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.		The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' is a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.

	This would make {{tone\|4}} purely a "serial verb ~~continuation~~ tone."		This would make {{tone\|4}} purely a "post-determiner and serial-verb-making tone."

	It is marked in this article with an "m above" diacritic. For example: {{t\|{{green\|Jaͫq}} chỏ jí ní sỉo da.}}		It is marked in this article with an "m above" diacritic. For example: {{t\|{{green\|Jaͫq}} chỏ jí ní sỉo da.}}

Laqme: Created page with "The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' is a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence. This would make {{tone|4}} purely a "serial verb continuation tone." It is marked in this article with an "m above" diacritic. For example: {{t|{{green|Jaͫq}} chỏ jí ní sỉo da.}} Introducing such a tone would have a few benefits: # No more mandatory {{t|da}} or {{t|la}} fences between sentences, as this tone itself marks (the verb of) a ne..."

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Created page with "The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' is a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence. This would make {{tone|4}} purely a "serial verb continuation tone." It is marked in this article with an "m above" diacritic. For example: {{t|{{green|Jaͫq}} chỏ jí ní sỉo da.}} Introducing such a tone would have a few benefits: # No more mandatory {{t|da}} or {{t|la}} fences between sentences, as this tone itself marks (the verb of) a ne..."

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The '''main verb tone''' or '''F-tone''' is a hypothetical new tone that would mark the main verb of a clause or sentence.

This would make {{tone|4}} purely a "serial verb continuation tone."

It is marked in this article with an "m above" diacritic. For example: {{t|{{green|Jaͫq}} chỏ jí ní sỉo da.}}

Introducing such a tone would have a few benefits:

# No more mandatory {{t|da}} or {{t|la}} fences between sentences, as this tone itself marks (the verb of) a new sentence. {{t|Dỉo da, nủaq da}} can just be {{t|Diͫo, nuͫaq}}.
# It allows for coordinating clauses without a need for {{t|na}}, for example: {{t|gî ní na ru jỏe súq}} → {{t|gî ní ru joͫe súq}}.
# The falling tone {{tone|4}} becomes less common.
# It works nicely in the [[syntax]]: this tone is the "F" head of an "FP" (hence its second name).

The cost, of course, is "one more tone". It would be balanced out by merging [[adverbial]] tones (see [[Full Arguments]]).

== Proposed reallocation ==
In August 2022 [[Hoemaı]] proposed a reallocation of the tones that includes a main verb tone.

https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/311223912044167168/1010869237331546162

In summary:
* Adverbials get {{tone|1}}.
* Variables get {{tone|2}} (as before).
* Serial tails get {{tone|4}} (as before).
* Relative clauses get {{tone|5}}.
* Main verbs get {{tone|6}}, with {{tone|3old}} as an optional allotone.
* Content clauses get {{tone|7}} or {{tone|3}} (they can merge to a single creaky tone).