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		<title>Laqme: Link the &quot;negative events&quot; paper</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Link the &amp;quot;negative events&amp;quot; paper&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 11:57, 31 August 2024&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# One idea is that &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;bụmarao(e)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; means: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;e&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is an event with which no {{t|marao}}-event is concomitant.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[User:Uakci]] in [https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/646607726817968138/1133694313742729286 #tooling on 2023-07-26]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# One idea is that &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;bụmarao(e)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; means: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;e&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is an event with which no {{t|marao}}-event is concomitant.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[User:Uakci]] in [https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/646607726817968138/1133694313742729286 #tooling on 2023-07-26]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Another idea is that {{t|bụmarao}}-ing is a verb whose truth conditions are inverted from {{t|marao}}.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;You are doing it right now. Are you an {{small caps|agent}}?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Another idea is that {{t|bụmarao}}-ing is a verb whose truth conditions are inverted from {{t|marao}}.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;You are doing it right now. Are you an {{small caps|agent}}?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# A promising idea from semantics research is that {{t|bu-}} makes &quot;negative events&quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://academic.oup.com/jos/article/40/4/585/7604664 Timothée Bernard, Lucas Champollion, &quot;Negative Events and Compositional Semantics&quot;]. It looks like {{t|bu-}} can be the &quot;Neg&quot; function proposed here.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about transitive verbs? It seems ridiculous to say that we have successfully {{t|bụchuq}}-ed for a week simply because there exists a cookie we haven&amp;#039;t eaten all week. So maybe it&amp;#039;s sensible for {{t|bu-}} to turn verbs intransitive: {{t|bụchoa}} is to keep one&amp;#039;s mouth shut (as to not-speak is to not speak anything), {{t|bụchuq}} is to fast (as to not-eat is to not eat anything), and so on.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about transitive verbs? It seems ridiculous to say that we have successfully {{t|bụchuq}}-ed for a week simply because there exists a cookie we haven&amp;#039;t eaten all week. So maybe it&amp;#039;s sensible for {{t|bu-}} to turn verbs intransitive: {{t|bụchoa}} is to keep one&amp;#039;s mouth shut (as to not-speak is to not speak anything), {{t|bụchuq}} is to fast (as to not-eat is to not eat anything), and so on.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Laqme: Add Category:Proposals</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Add &lt;a href=&quot;/Category:Proposals&quot; title=&quot;Category:Proposals&quot;&gt;Category:Proposals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Laqme: proposal</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;proposal&lt;/p&gt;
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The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Strict Polarity&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; proposal limits where {{t|bu}} and words like it ([[polarity]] items, Σ) can occur.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The problem ==&lt;br /&gt;
What does {{t|bu marao jí}} (&amp;quot;I don&amp;#039;t dance&amp;quot;) mean?&lt;br /&gt;
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Officially, {{t|bu}} &amp;quot;can go anywhere&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;simply inserts a ¬ in place.&amp;quot; Hoemaı&amp;#039;s intent is for {{t|bu marao}} to claim an event of non-dancing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Hoemaı]] in [https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/488841289425485824/1146120466516422726 #docs on 2023-08-29]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The refgram says that polarity items &amp;quot;usually attach to [[𝑣P]]s or [[TP]]s.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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But if the 𝑣P {{t|marao jí}} denotes &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;λe. marao(e) ∧ agent(e) = jí&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;, then {{t|bu marao jí}} means &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;λe. ¬(marao(e) ∧ agent(e) = jí)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;. Rather than &amp;quot;I do some non-dancing&amp;quot;, this claims &amp;quot;Something happens, but it&amp;#039;s not &amp;#039;me dancing&amp;#039;&amp;quot;, which is a strange meaning. It gives us almost no information about &amp;#039;&amp;#039;e&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, and it isn&amp;#039;t really anything like what we mean by &amp;quot;I don&amp;#039;t dance&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, negating a 𝑣P (by placing {{t|bu}} before it) is apparently a bit weird. How do we get {{t|bu marao jí}} to mean something sensible?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Other sensible negation scopes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Let&amp;#039;s suppose for a moment that we have a mechanism to negate verbs: ⟦{{t|bụmarao}}⟧ = &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;λe. bumarao(e)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;, an event of non-dancing, which we can then say {{t|jí}} participates in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Negating a [[TP]] has different, but also intuitive semantics: {{t|Bu mala marao jí}} means &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;ve never danced&amp;quot; (a denial of {{t|Mala marao jí}}).&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe these are enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strict Polarity ==&lt;br /&gt;
We can limit negation to these two cases: {{t|bu-}} negates verbs and {{t|bu}} negates TP.&lt;br /&gt;
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# {{t|bụmarao jí}} claims an event of my non-dancing.&lt;br /&gt;
# {{t|bu marao jí}} is actually {{t|bu (tuom) (tam) marao jí}}, and it means &amp;quot;there is no event of me dancing at that&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Recall that the default tense {{t|tuom}} is a &amp;quot;vague definite temporal reference&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; time.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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There is always a hierarchy like &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;(ΣP) TP AspP 𝑣P (Σ-)V&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; instead of Σ heads showing up anywhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sentences like {{t|Pu bu chum hao jí}} or {{t|Pu chum bu hao jí}} are now ungrammatical.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conjunctions like {{t|rú}} now join ΣP instead of TP.&lt;br /&gt;
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== So how does {{t|bu-}} work? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=warningbox&amp;gt;There are more questions than answers here.&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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If we say {{t|bu-}} is just ¬, then the verb {{t|bụmarao}} denotes &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;λe. ¬marao(e)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;, which is still pretty weird. We want to say &amp;#039;&amp;#039;e&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is an event of not-dancing: an event of refraining from dance. But &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;λe. ¬marao(e)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; only says what &amp;#039;&amp;#039;e&amp;#039;&amp;#039; isn&amp;#039;t, which isn&amp;#039;t specific enough.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;e could still be pretty much anything, even an event of the world going up in flames&amp;quot; — [[User:Loekıa]] in [https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/646607726817968138/1073318532869271633 #tooling on 2023-02-09]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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So, maybe {{t|bu-}} is not simply ¬. It&amp;#039;s a bit unclear how to get good semantics for &amp;quot;not-dancing&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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# One idea is that &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;bụmarao(e)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; means: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;e&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is an event with which no {{t|marao}}-event is concomitant.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[User:Uakci]] in [https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/646607726817968138/1133694313742729286 #tooling on 2023-07-26]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Another idea is that {{t|bụmarao}}-ing is a verb whose truth conditions are inverted from {{t|marao}}.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;You are doing it right now. Are you an {{small caps|agent}}?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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What about transitive verbs? It seems ridiculous to say that we have successfully {{t|bụchuq}}-ed for a week simply because there exists a cookie we haven&amp;#039;t eaten all week. So maybe it&amp;#039;s sensible for {{t|bu-}} to turn verbs intransitive: {{t|bụchoa}} is to keep one&amp;#039;s mouth shut (as to not-speak is to not speak anything), {{t|bụchuq}} is to fast (as to not-eat is to not eat anything), and so on.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Negation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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