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A 2020 Discord message by Hoemai announcing a grammar update for [[Toaq Beta]]. https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/311223912044167168/726562475012522096 | |||
In modern-as-of-2023 Toaq Delta, all [[adverbial]]s are "low-attaching", and the old tones {{Tone|6}}<sup>γ</sup> and {{Tone|7}}<sup>γ</sup> have indeed been merged into {{Done|4}}<sup>δ</sup>. | |||
<blockquote>A small update on the grammar: I have decided to simplify adverbials. Together with my recent conclusion that Toaq does (or should) have a TP, this solves all the previously unsolvable problems. | <blockquote>A small update on the grammar: I have decided to simplify adverbials. Together with my recent conclusion that Toaq does (or should) have a TP, this solves all the previously unsolvable problems. | ||
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In any case, this would put the overall progress at 90+%, so I’m going with that instead of the frustrating-to-formalize (and hard-to-use) status quo. | In any case, this would put the overall progress at 90+%, so I’m going with that instead of the frustrating-to-formalize (and hard-to-use) status quo. | ||
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The low—high distinction is official as of [[Toaq γ]] and is now referred to by the moniker [https://toaq.net/refgram/17/ Type I and II adverbials]. Only certain verbs (modals, {{t|bũ}}, tense) can function as Type II adverbs. | |||
== Discussion == | == Discussion == | ||
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However, this behavior will not extend to tense-like predicates, where not presently asserting something is the whole point — because "You dance and do so in-the-past-ly" is never meaningful or useful, and we probably want to keep things like '''bũ''' and '''pũ''' around. | However, this behavior will not extend to tense-like predicates, where not presently asserting something is the whole point — because "You dance and do so in-the-past-ly" is never meaningful or useful, and we probably want to keep things like '''bũ''' and '''pũ''' around. | ||
In Lojban terms, the (default) meaning of | In Lojban terms, the (default) meaning of {{Tone|7}} has moved from <code>soi'a</code> to <code>poi'a</code>. Even if you're not a Lojbanist, [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ this blog post] by Hoemai about their attempt to add useful adverbs to that language might help you understand the situation of Toaq adverbs. | ||
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Latest revision as of 19:26, 17 February 2023
A 2020 Discord message by Hoemai announcing a grammar update for Toaq Beta. https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/311223912044167168/726562475012522096
In modern-as-of-2023 Toaq Delta, all adverbials are "low-attaching", and the old tones 
γ and 
γ have indeed been merged into 
δ.
A small update on the grammar: I have decided to simplify adverbials. Together with my recent conclusion that Toaq does (or should) have a TP, this solves all the previously unsolvable problems.
What this means is that there will simply be two types of adverbs, depending on where they attach. For now, the low-attaching adverbials are those formed with
I also looked into the possibility of merging
In any case, this would put the overall progress at 90+%, so I’m going with that instead of the frustrating-to-formalize (and hard-to-use) status quo.