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 == Opacity ==
-Current object-incorporating verbs are said to be "opaque": quantifications like {{t|po tu poq}} are restricted to a ficticious small "{{t|po}} + object clause", rather than the encompassing clause.
+I'm not sure if {{t|hao do}} should be [[opaque]] like {{t|po}}, but I think it makes sense. Consequences include:
-Another way to think about this is that the {{t|tu}} doesn't leave the ''definition'' of the new verb.
-Thus {{t|po tu pỏq}} always means "[∀P: poq(P)] ___ is P's", or in English: "___ is everyone's".
-And thus {{t|<u>po tu pỏq</u> sa kủa}} means "some rooms <u>are everyone's</u>", regardless of the other quantifiers in the sentence, and not something like "∀[P: poq(P)] ∃[K: kua(K)] K is P's."
-I'm not sure if {{t|hao do}} should be "opaque" in the same way, but I think it makes sense. Consequences include:
 # {{t|Fíeq do sıa lua}} means "the one who invents no stories" rather than "no story's inventor". This is definitely more intuitive to me.
 # {{t|Lỉaı gão do tu rua sa apı}} means something different from the old {{t|Lỉaı gào tu rua sa apı}}. This might be fine? Not sure which is more intuitive. Either is still achievable with prenex.

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