Prefix Reform: Difference between revisions
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|{{t| | |{{t|tọ̈ꝡa}} <small>{{red|''(invalid word)''}}</small> | ||
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|{{t|bộtao}} | |{{t|bộtao}} | ||
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|{{t|lạ́maı bẹ́ıroı}} [ˈlăʔă˨˦maj˦˥ ˈbɛ̆ʔɛ̆j˨˩rɔj˩] | |{{t|lạ́maı bẹ́ıroı}} [ˈlăʔă˨˦maj˦˥ ˈbɛ̆ʔɛ̆j˨˩rɔj˩] | ||
|{{t|lamáı beıróı}} [la˧ˈmaj˧˥ | |{{t|lamáı beıróı}} [la˧ˈmaj˧˥ bɛj˧˨ˈrɔj˨˩] | ||
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| style="background:#ccc" |N/A | | style="background:#ccc" |N/A | ||
|{{t| | |{{t|toꝡä}} [tʰo˧˨ˈjaʔa˨˩] | ||
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|{{t|jụ̂aqjuaı}} [ˈd͡ʑŭʔŭaŋ˧˥˨d͡ʑu˨˩aj˩] | |{{t|jụ̂aqjuaı}} [ˈd͡ʑŭʔŭaŋ˧˥˨d͡ʑu˨˩aj˩] | ||
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The value of this proposal, apart from more flexibility and less ambiguity, is that stems no longer alternate between stressed and unstressed depending on whether they have prefixes attached to them (think {{t|<u>juı</u>taq}} vs. {{t|bụ<u>juı</u>}}). As another pleasant side effect, poly[[raku]]ic words in {{done|3}} are now possible (like {{t|äımu}}, which before was ambiguous with the mid-falling allotonal forms of {{t|ạımu}} and {{t|ạ́ımu}}). | The value of this proposal, apart from more flexibility and less ambiguity, is that stems no longer alternate between stressed and unstressed depending on whether they have prefixes attached to them (think {{t|<u>juı</u>taq}} vs. {{t|bụ<u>juı</u>}}). As another pleasant side effect, poly[[raku]]<nowiki />ic words in {{done|3}} are now possible (like {{t|äımu}}, which before was ambiguous with the mid-falling allotonal forms of {{t|ạımu}} and {{t|ạ́ımu}}). | ||
==See also== | ==See also== | ||
* [https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/889589074011230230/1113157808934883469 uakci’s original message] | * [https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/889589074011230230/1113157808934883469 uakci’s original message] | ||
Revision as of 17:17, 16 November 2023
Prefix Reform is a proposal by uakci to change how prefixes interact with the stems of words.
Note: the two parts of the proposal, Spelling changes and Pronunciation changes, could be considered independently of each other.
Reasons
- Prefixes currently act weird.
- They are unable to interact with
. This proposal would allow prefixes to go on words with . - It is unclear how exactly they affect vocalic length. Plus, those interactions are often quite subtle and easily missed – consider bộtao vs. bô'otao. This makes prefixes hard to teach and possibly discouraging to a new learner trying to produce them in speech.
- They are unable to interact with
- The current spelling of prefixes is not computer-friendly. They are difficult (if not impossible) to type for many and some characters, like ı̣ often do not display correctly in many fonts. This proposal would allow for easier input and guarantee compatibility with most good fonts.
- There's a gotcha where e- (any prefix) + ano (any vowel-initial stem) is not ẹano [ˈʔĕʔĕano] but ẹ'ano [ˈʔɛ̆ʔɛ̆ʔaːno]. This subtlety is not explained or taught to people, and it's likewise unintuitive. Worse yet, the glottal interposition (which turns /ɛ/ and /ɛː/ into [ɛ̆ʔɛ̆]) effectively splinters vowel length into three instead of two!
Spelling changes
Instead of putting the tone mark on the first syllable, put it on the first syllable of the stem. In the case of a word with 
, use 
as the diacritic.
| Official | Proposal |
|---|---|
| mụfoaq | mufòaq |
| lạ́maı | lamáı |
| tọ̈ꝡa (invalid word) | toꝡä |
| bộtao | botâo |
Pronunciation changes
Stress the first syllable of the stem rather than the prefix, separating the stem from the prefixes. Stressed syllables should be louder and/or longer and/or more extreme in terms of the tone contour. Prefixes should be pronounced unstressed, with its tone “anticipating” the stem’s contour. For example, if the stem starts high, the prefixes should be high. If the stem starts lower, the prefixes should be there as well. Unstressed syllables should strive to be quiet, short(ened), and minimal in terms of tone contour or just pronounced as level tone.
Illustrative examples:
| Official | Proposal |
|---|---|
| puchụmtao [ˈpuː˥˨t͡ɕŭʔŭm˨˩tʰaw˩] | puchumtào [pu˥t͡ɕum˥˦ˈtaːw˦˩] |
| jı̣achıa [ˈd͡ʑĭʔĭa˥˨t͡ɕia˨˩] | jıachìa [d͡ʑia˥˦ˈt͡ɕiːa˦˩] |
| lạ́maı bẹ́ıroı [ˈlăʔă˨˦maj˦˥ ˈbɛ̆ʔɛ̆j˨˩rɔj˩] | lamáı beıróı [la˧ˈmaj˧˥ bɛj˧˨ˈrɔj˨˩] |
| N/A | toꝡä [tʰo˧˨ˈjaʔa˨˩] |
| jụ̂aqjuaı [ˈd͡ʑŭʔŭaŋ˧˥˨d͡ʑu˨˩aj˩] | juaqjûaı [d͡ʑuaŋ˧˦ˈd͡ʑuː˦˥˨aj˨˩] |
The value of this proposal, apart from more flexibility and less ambiguity, is that stems no longer alternate between stressed and unstressed depending on whether they have prefixes attached to them (think juıtaq vs. bụjuı). As another pleasant side effect, polyrakuic words in are now possible (like äımu, which before was ambiguous with the mid-falling allotonal forms of ạımu and ạ́ımu).