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! colspan=3 | Example <span style="font-weight: normal;>(underline shows how far the phrase extends)</span>
! colspan=3 | Example <span style="font-weight: normal;>(underline shows how far the phrase extends)</span>
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! Without terminator !! → !! With terminator
! Without terminator !! With terminator
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| {{class|po|object-incorporating verbs}} || {{t|ga}}
| {{class|po|object-incorporating verbs}} || {{t|ga}}
| {{t|<u>pỏ súq nỉaı</u>}} ''you, an animal’s'' || || {{t|<u>pỏ súq ga</u> nỉaı}} ''your animal''
| {{t|<u>pỏ súq nỉaı</u>}} ''you, an animal’s'' || {{t|<u>pỏ súq ga</u> nỉaı}} ''your animal''
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| {{class|mı|name marker}} || {{t|ga}} (unofficially, {{t|ceı}})
| {{class|mı|name marker}} || {{t|ga}} (unofficially, {{t|ceı}})
| {{t|<u>mỉ mỉao kảto</u>}} ''“Moon-Cat”'' || || {{t|<u>mỉ mỉao ga</u> kảto}} ''“Moon” the cat''
| {{t|<u>mỉ mỉao kảto</u>}} ''“Moon-Cat”'' || {{t|<u>mỉ mỉao ga</u> kảto}} ''“Moon” the cat''
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| {{class|lu|free relative clause (as in “the one who …”)}}  || {{t|ky}}
| {{class|lu|free relative clause (as in “the one who …”)}}  || {{t|ky}}
| {{t|mảı jí sa <u>lủ mảı hóa fúy</u> da}} ''I love somebody who loves me'' || || {{t|<u>lủ mảı hóa jí ky</u> nháo da}} ''they are such that I love them''
| {{t|mảı jí sa <u>lủ mảı hóa fúy</u> da}} ''I love somebody who loves me'' || {{t|<u>lủ mảı hóa jí ky</u> nháo da}} ''they are such that I love them''
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| [[clause]] ({{tone|3}} or {{tone|5}}) || {{t|cy}}<ref group=note name=type-2-termination />
| {{t|Dảı <u>rûaq jí róu</u>}} ''It’s possible that I state it'' || {{t|Dảı <u>rûaq jí cy</u> róu}} ''Given this, it’s possible that I state''
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<span style="font-size: smaller"><references group=note>
<ref name=type-2-termination>While not officially confirmed or denied, clauses seem to be terminable with adverbials. For example, in {{t|Cả rôq nháo põı jảq mẻo rôq mao jí jẽo nãı da}} ''That they cried in great sadness now caused me to cry as well'', the noun phrase {{t|rôq…}} can’t possibly be included in the first {{t|rôq…}} clause as it appears after {{t|põı jảq mẻo}}, and adverbs go at the end of a clause – and {{t|nãı}} is similarly ousted to the outer clause because it’s preceded by {{t|jẽo}}, which is type-2 (and type-2 always follows type-1). There is a proposal for supplanting {{t|cy}} with {{t|nã}}, where {{t|na}} would be a vacuous type-2 adverbial ({{t|jeo}}?).</ref>
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Apart from all these, {{class|hu|vocative particle}}, which are used for vocatives, are sometimes understood as terminated with {{t|ga}}. However this would seem unnecessary as {{class|hu|vocative particle}} are commonly used between sentences, in which case you may use {{t|lả}}, e.g., {{t|hu káto lả chủq súq ba}} ''O cat, you should eat!''.
Apart from all these, {{class|hu|vocative particle}}, which are used for vocatives, are sometimes understood as terminated with {{t|ga}}. However this would seem unnecessary as {{class|hu|vocative particle}} are commonly used between sentences, in which case you may use {{t|lả}}, e.g., {{t|hu káto lả chủq súq ba}} ''O cat, you should eat!''.
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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! Structure
! Structure
! Terminator
! Starts with
! Ends with
! An example just for you
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| {{class|mo|full-text quote marker}} || {{t|teo}}
| full-text quote || {{t|mo}} || {{t|teo}}
| {{t|Kủq nháo mó «Mảı jí súq da» teo da.}} ''They said, “I love you”.''
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| {{class|kıo|open parenthesis}} || {{t|kı}}
| parenthetical statement || {{t|kıo}} || {{t|kı}}
| {{t|Mả tỉjuı súq moq? (kıo ỉq jí da )}} ''Are you close by? (I am)''
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| topic || {{t|bı}}
| topic || (start of clause) || {{t|bı}}
| {{t|lâ seku bủ , chỉ bủ jí}} ''…that as for most false things, I deem them false''
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| [[clause]] ({{tone|3}} or {{tone|5}}) || {{t|cy}}
| incidental statement || {{t|ju}} || {{class|da|illocution}}
| {{t|Gảı jí sa rủa da, ju kủao máq da}} ''I saw a flower, which was green.''
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While not officially confirmed or denied, clauses seem to be terminable with adverbials. For example, in {{t|Cả rôq nháo põı jảq mẻo rôq mao jí jẽo nãı da}} ''That they cried in great sadness now caused me to cry as well'', the noun phrase {{t|rôq…}} can’t possibly be included in the first {{t|rôq…}} clause as it appears after {{t|põı jảq mẻo}}, and adverbs go at the end of a clause – and {{t|nãı}} is similarly ousted to the outer clause because it’s preceded by {{t|jẽo}}, which is type-2 (and type-2 always follows type-1). There is a proposal for supplanting {{t|cy}} with {{t|nã}}, where {{t|na}} would be a vacuous type-2 adverbial ({{t|jeo}}?).