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==="If I owned a unicorn, I would feed it"===
==="If I owned a unicorn, I would feed it"===
Attempts:


* {{T|She hâqdoa jí tu shıtuaq bö jí hó, keo bo jí sıa hao da.}} has to be phrased much differently than the original (enough so that it might not even mean the right thing (?)), and is long.
* {{T|She hâqdoa jí tu shıtuaq bö jí hó, keo bo jí sıa hao da.}} has to be phrased much differently than the original (enough so that it might not even mean the right thing (?)), and is long.
* {{T|Baq guo sü kîaı jí sa shıtuaq bı, mu paq gúo hâqdoa jí shítuaq päqtao gúo da.}} demonstrates the seed of different kind of phrasing, but is very long and awkward as-is. The idea is to have a single mechanism that covers both "if a unicorn existed, it would have a horn" and "if an event of me having a unicorn existed, it would include me feeding it" with some mechanism for saying "X's have property Y" even when X's don't really exist, and then to make X "events of me having a unicorn" and Y the property "the haver of X gives food to the havee of X".
* {{T|Baq guo sü kîaı jí sa shıtuaq bı, mu paq gúo hâqdoa jí shítuaq päqtao gúo da.}} demonstrates the seed of different kind of phrasing, but is very long and awkward as-is. The idea is to have a single mechanism that covers both "if a unicorn existed, it would have a horn" and "if an event of me having a unicorn existed, it would include me feeding it" with some mechanism for saying "X's have property Y" even when X's don't really exist, and then to make X "events of me having a unicorn" and Y the property "the haver of X gives food to the havee of X".


==="foxes are small to medium-sized creatures"===
==="Foxes are small to medium-sized creatures"===
 
Attempts:


* {{T|Nuı rVV saotuao nıaı baq hupı da.}} requires a new conjunction {{T|rVV}} which produces the appropriate meaning when used in serials. It's unclear (to me, Hoaqgıo, as I write this) how the conjunction would work, because it doesn't seem like there's a meaning for it to have when joining two noun phrases, unless they both happen to be kinds.
* {{T|Nuı rVV saotuao nıaı baq hupı da.}} requires a new conjunction {{T|rVV}} which produces the appropriate meaning when used in serials. It's unclear (to me, Hoaqgıo, as I write this) how the conjunction would work, because it doesn't seem like there's a meaning for it to have when joining two noun phrases, unless they both happen to be kinds.
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==="I know the names of many things."===
==="I know the names of many things."===
Attempts:


* {{T|Sa puı tu shı mëa púı bı, dua jí chûa hı shí da.}} works, but is quite long.
* {{T|Sa puı tu shı mëa púı bı, dua jí chûa hı shí da.}} works, but is quite long.
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