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##It is unclear how exactly they affect vocalic length. Plus, those interactions are often quite subtle and easily missed – consider {{t|bộtao}} vs. {{t|bô'otao}}. This makes prefixes hard to teach and possibly discouraging to a new learner trying to produce them in speech. | ##It is unclear how exactly they affect vocalic length. Plus, those interactions are often quite subtle and easily missed – consider {{t|bộtao}} vs. {{t|bô'otao}}. This makes prefixes hard to teach and possibly discouraging to a new learner trying to produce them in speech. | ||
#The current spelling of prefixes is not computer-friendly. They are difficult (if not impossible) to type for many and some characters, like {{T|ı̣}} often do not display correctly in many fonts. This proposal would allow for easier input and guarantee compatibility with most good fonts. | #The current spelling of prefixes is not computer-friendly. They are difficult (if not impossible) to type for many and some characters, like {{T|ı̣}} often do not display correctly in many fonts. This proposal would allow for easier input and guarantee compatibility with most good fonts. | ||
#*There's a gotcha where {{t|e-}} (any prefix) + {{t|ano}} (any vowel-initial stem) is not {{t|ẹano}} [ˈʔĕʔĕano] but {{t|ẹ'ano}} [ˈʔɛ̆ʔɛ̆ʔaːno]. | #*There's a gotcha where {{t|e-}} (any prefix) + {{t|ano}} (any vowel-initial stem) is not {{t|ẹano}} [ˈʔĕʔĕano] but {{t|ẹ'ano}} [ˈʔɛ̆ʔɛ̆ʔaːno]. The latter is actually {{t|ea-}} + {{t|no}}! – but this subtlety is not explained or taught to people, and it's likewise unintuitive. Worse yet, the glottal interposition (which turns /ɛ/ and /ɛː/ into [ɛ̆ʔɛ̆]) effectively splinters vowel length into three instead of two! | ||
==Spelling changes== | ==Spelling changes== | ||
Instead of putting the tone mark on the first syllable, put it on the first syllable of the stem. In the case of a word with {{Done|1}}, use {{Tone|6}} as the diacritic. | Instead of putting the tone mark on the first syllable, put it on the first syllable of the stem. In the case of a word with {{Done|1}}, use {{Tone|6}} as the diacritic. Examples: | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
!Official | !Official | ||
|{{t|mụfoaq}} | |||
|{{t|lạ́maı}} | |||
|{{t|tọ̈ꝡa}} <small>{{red|''(invalid word)''}}</small> | |||
|{{t|bộtao}} | |||
|- | |||
!Proposal | !Proposal | ||
|{{t|mufòaq}} | |{{t|mufòaq}} | ||
|{{t|lamáı}} | |{{t|lamáı}} | ||
|{{t|toꝡä}} | |{{t|toꝡä}} | ||
|{{t|botâo}} | |{{t|botâo}} | ||
|} | |} | ||
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{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
!Official | !Official | ||
|{{t|puchụmtao}} || [ˈpuː˥˨t͡ɕŭʔŭm˨˩tʰaw˩] | |||
| rowspan=2 | | |||
|{{t|jı̣achia}} || [ˈd͡ʑĭʔĭa˥˨t͡ɕia˨˩] | |||
| rowspan=2 | | |||
|{{t|lạ́maı bẹ́ıroı}} || [ˈlăʔă˨˦maj˦˥ ˈbɛ̆ʔɛ̆j˨˩rɔj˩] | |||
| rowspan=2 | | |||
| colspan=2 style="background:#ccc" | N/A | |||
| rowspan=2 | | |||
| {{t|jụ̂aqjuaı}} || [ˈd͡ʑŭʔŭaŋ˧˥˨d͡ʑu˨˩aj˩] | |||
|- | |||
!Proposal | !Proposal | ||
|{{t|puchumtào}} || [pu˥t͡ɕum˥˦ˈtaːw˦˩] | |||
|{{t| | |{{t|jıachìa}} || [d͡ʑia˥˦ˈt͡ɕiːa˦˩] | ||
| | |{{t|lamáı beıróı}} || [la˧ˈmaj˧˥ bɛj˧˨ˈrɔj˨˩] | ||
|{{t|toꝡä}} || [tʰo˧˨ˈjaʔa˨˩] | |||
|{{t| | |{{t|juaqjûaı}} || [d͡ʑuaŋ˧˦ˈd͡ʑuː˦˥˨aj˨˩] | ||
| | |||
|{{t| | |||
| | |||
|{{t|toꝡä}} [tʰo˧˨ˈjaʔa˨˩] | |||
|{{t| | |||
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|} | |} | ||
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{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
!Official | !Official | ||
|{{t|puchụmtao}} | |||
|{{t|jı̣achia}} | |||
|{{t|lạ́maı bẹ́ıroı}} | |||
| style="background:#ccc" |N/A | |||
|{{t|jụ̂aqjuaı}} | |||
|- | |||
!“Halfway”<ref group=note>[[Lynn]]’s idea: https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/334810940392341514/1174698020579856434</ref> | !“Halfway”<ref group=note>[[Lynn]]’s idea: https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/334810940392341514/1174698020579856434</ref> | ||
|{{t|puchụmtao}} | |||
|{{t|jı̣achıa}} | |||
|{{t|lạmáı bẹıróı}} | |||
|{{t|tọꝡä}} | |||
|{{t|jụaqjûaı}} | |||
|- | |||
!Main proposal | !Main proposal | ||
|{{t|puchumtào}} | |||
|{{t|jıachìa}} | |||
|{{t|lamáı beıróı}} | |||
|{{t|toꝡä}} | |||
|{{t|juaqjûaı}} | |||
|- | |||
!This idea | !This idea | ||
!{{t|pū chūm tao}} | !{{t|pū chūm tao}} | ||
!{{t|jīa chıa}} | !{{t|jīa chıa}} | ||
!{{t|lā máı bēı róı}} | !{{t|lā máı bēı róı}} | ||
!{{t|tō ꝡä}} | !{{t|tō ꝡä}} | ||
!{{t|jūaq jûaı}} | !{{t|jūaq jûaı}} | ||
|} | |} | ||