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An often-quoted 2020 Discord message by Hoemai announcing a grammar update. https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/311223912044167168/726562475012522096
A 2020 Discord message by Hoemai announcing a grammar update for [[Toaq Beta]]. https://discord.com/channels/311223912044167168/311223912044167168/726562475012522096
 
In modern-as-of-2023 Toaq Delta, all [[adverbial]]s are "low-attaching", and the old tones {{Tone|6}}<sup>γ</sup> and {{Tone|7}}<sup>γ</sup> have indeed been merged into {{Done|4}}<sup>δ</sup>.


<blockquote>A small update on the grammar: I have decided to simplify adverbials. Together with my recent conclusion that Toaq does (or should) have a TP, this solves all the previously unsolvable problems.
<blockquote>A small update on the grammar: I have decided to simplify adverbials. Together with my recent conclusion that Toaq does (or should) have a TP, this solves all the previously unsolvable problems.
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In any case, this would put the overall progress at 90+%, so I’m going with that instead of the frustrating-to-formalize (and hard-to-use) status quo.
In any case, this would put the overall progress at 90+%, so I’m going with that instead of the frustrating-to-formalize (and hard-to-use) status quo.
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=== Current status ===
The low—high distinction is official as of [[Toaq γ]] and is now referred to by the moniker [https://toaq.net/refgram/17/ Type I and II adverbials]. Only certain verbs (modals, {{t|bũ}}, tense) can function as Type II adverbs.


== Discussion ==
== Discussion ==
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However, this behavior will not extend to tense-like predicates, where not presently asserting something is the whole point — because "You dance and do so in-the-past-ly" is never meaningful or useful, and we probably want to keep things like '''bũ''' and '''pũ''' around.
However, this behavior will not extend to tense-like predicates, where not presently asserting something is the whole point — because "You dance and do so in-the-past-ly" is never meaningful or useful, and we probably want to keep things like '''bũ''' and '''pũ''' around.


In Lojban terms, the (default) meaning of '''õ''' has moved from <code>soi'a</code> to <code>poi'a</code>. Even if you're not a Lojbanist, [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ this blog post] by Hoemai about their attempt to add useful adverbs to that language might help you understand the situation of Toaq adverbs.
In Lojban terms, the (default) meaning of {{Tone|7}} has moved from <code>soi'a</code> to <code>poi'a</code>. Even if you're not a Lojbanist, [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ this blog post] by Hoemai about their attempt to add useful adverbs to that language might help you understand the situation of Toaq adverbs.
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