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== Discussion == | == Discussion == | ||
A '''low adverb''' is one that only adorns the claim it's in, but doesn't stop it from being asserted. An old-school '''high adverb''' actually wrapped the whole claim in some predicate, which had the power to stop it from being asserted. | A '''low adverb''' is one that only adorns the claim it's in, but doesn't stop it from being asserted. An old-school '''high adverb''' actually wrapped the whole claim in some predicate, which had the power to stop it from being asserted. | ||
It has since been announced that there will be [https://toaqlanguage.wordpress.com/2021/08/08/miscellanea1/ no actual word like “ıq”], and maybe no high adverbs at all (instead you just serialize them into the main verb, or ''make'' them the main verb). | |||
The update means that '''Sủaq súq dẽ da''' now means "You dance (and do so) beautifully", whereas it used to be "It is beautiful that you (at some point somewhere) dance", which unintuitively did not assert any dancing. | The update means that '''Sủaq súq dẽ da''' now means "You dance (and do so) beautifully", whereas it used to be "It is beautiful that you (at some point somewhere) dance", which unintuitively did not assert any dancing. | ||
However, this behavior will not extend to tense-like predicates, where not presently asserting something is the whole point — because "You dance and do so in-the-past-ly" is never meaningful or useful, and we probably want to keep things like '''bũ''' and '''pũ''' around. | However, this behavior will not extend to tense-like predicates, where not presently asserting something is the whole point — because "You dance and do so in-the-past-ly" is never meaningful or useful, and we probably want to keep things like '''bũ''' and '''pũ''' around. | ||
In Lojban terms, the (default) meaning of '''õ''' has moved from <code>soi'a</code> to <code>poi'a</code>. Even if you're not a Lojbanist, [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ this blog post] by Hoemai about their attempt to add useful adverbs to that language might help you understand the situation of Toaq adverbs. | In Lojban terms, the (default) meaning of '''õ''' has moved from <code>soi'a</code> to <code>poi'a</code>. Even if you're not a Lojbanist, [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/noiha/ this blog post] by Hoemai about their attempt to add useful adverbs to that language might help you understand the situation of Toaq adverbs. | ||