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In fact, [[Laqme]] thinks we should analyze serial verbs as constituents, rather than using movement. In that case, it's natural that {{t|shoe}} would not introduce scope; rather, {{t|shoe kuq}} can somehow be considered a V, reflecting that serials and atomic verbs ''really are'' syntactically the same. (This would change the behavior of {{t|ru}}, but perhaps for the better!)
In fact, [[Laqme]] thinks we should analyze serial verbs as constituents, rather than using movement. In that case, it's natural that {{t|shoe}} would not introduce scope; rather, {{t|shoe kuq}} can somehow be considered a V, reflecting that serials and atomic verbs ''really are'' syntactically the same. (This would change the behavior of {{t|ru}}, but perhaps for the better!)


(I guess there is some "internal structure" to a serial V. I imagine {{t|shoe}} can "apply to" {{t|kuq}} to get the meaning of {{t|shoe kuq}}, if you do a silly amount of type-shifting. Or maybe there is a covert operator in any serial that knows how to "do" the serialization — {{t|shoe kuq}} is really {{t|shoe kuq}} where {{t|xä}}<sub>m,n</sub> has type ⟨⟨e<sup>m</sup>,t⟩,⟨⟨e<sup>n</sup>,t⟩, ⟨e<sup>m+n-1</sup>,t⟩⟩⟩ and implements [[Serial_verb#Merging_definitions|merge-into]].)
(I guess there is some "internal structure" to a serial V. I imagine {{t|shoe}} can "apply to" {{t|kuq}} to get the meaning of {{t|shoe kuq}}, if you do a silly amount of type-shifting. Or maybe there is a covert operator in any serial that knows how to "do" the serialization — {{t|shoe kuq}} is really {{t|shoe x<sub>shoe</sub> kuq}} where {{t|x<sub>shoe</sub>}} is some unpronounced operator that implements [[Serial_verb#Merging_definitions|merge-into]] for {{t|shoe}}'s [[frame]].)


So basically: scope acts as described in [[No Scope Creep]], serial verbs are just verbs, and there is no movement in VPs. This is a big step away from Chomsky-style generative grammar, towards something more like Montague grammar / [[effects|effectful]] parsing / continuations and type-checking-based semantics.
So basically: scope acts as described in [[No Scope Creep]], serial verbs are just verbs, and there is no movement in VPs. This is a big step away from Chomsky-style generative grammar, towards something more like Montague grammar / [[effects|effectful]] parsing / continuations and type-checking-based semantics.