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|{{Derani|󱛄󱛊󱛃󱛍󱚺󱚱|kóam}}
|{{Dr|kóam}}
|zero
|zero
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|{{Derani|󱛀󱛊󱚹|shí}}
|{{Dr|shí}}
|one
|one
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|{{Derani|󱛃󱛊󱚲|gú}}
|{{Dr|gú}}
|two
|two
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|{{Derani|󱚺󱛊󱚺󱛂|sáq}}
|{{Dr|sáq}}
|three
|three
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|{{Derani|󱚾󱛊󱛃|jó}}
|{{Dr|jó}}
|four
|four
|-
|-
|{{Derani|󱚴󱛊󱚴|fé}}
|{{Dr|fé}}
|five
|five
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|{{Derani|󱚹󱛊󱚹|cí}}
|{{Dr|cí}}
|six
|six
|-
|-
|{{Derani|󱚶󱛊󱚹󱛍󱚺󱛎󱚹|díaı}}
|{{Dr|díaı}}
|seven
|seven
|-
|-
|{{Derani|󱚻󱛊󱛃󱛍󱚺󱛎󱚹|róaı}}
|{{Dr|róaı}}
|eight
|eight
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|{{Derani|󱚵󱛊󱚴󱛎󱚹|néı}}
|{{Dr|néı}}
|nine
|nine
|}
|}


{{Example|{{Derani|󱚵󱚴󱛍󱚲 󱚴󱛊󱚴 󱛃󱛊󱚲 󱚻󱛊󱛃󱛎󱚹 󱚺󱛊󱚺󱛂 󱛕|Neu fé gú róı sáq.}}|Five is the sum of two and three.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Neu fé gú róı sáq.}}|Five is the sum of two and three.}}


By combining a number with a prefix, you can turn it into another part of speech. For example, to get a verb of cardinality, we use the prefix {{Derani|󱚵󱚴󱛒|ne-}}.
By combining a number with a prefix, you can turn it into another part of speech. For example, to get a verb of cardinality, we use the prefix {{Dr|ne-}}.


{{Example|{{Derani|󱚴󱚾󱚲 󱛖 󱚵󱚴󱛒󱚹󱚹 󱚺󱛊󱚰󱚺 󱛕|Eju… Nẹcı áma.}}|Let's see… There are six of us. (We are six in number.)}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Eju… Nẹcı áma.}}|Let's see… There are six of us. (We are six in number.)}}


For brevity, when a verb of cardinality appears in the falling tone, we're actually allowed to omit the prefix altogether: {{Derani|󱚹󱚹 󱚺󱛊󱚰󱚺 󱛕|Cı áma.}} As linguists, we say that {{Derani|󱚵󱚴󱛒|ne-}} has a [[Allomorph|null allomorph]].
For brevity, when a verb of cardinality appears in the falling tone, we're actually allowed to omit the prefix altogether: {{Dr|Cı áma.}} As linguists, we say that {{Dr|ne-}} has a [[Allomorph|null allomorph]].


Another important prefix is {{Derani|󱛄󱛃󱛒|ko-}}. It forms '''ordinals''', much like the English suffix '-th'.
Another important prefix is {{Dr|ko-}}. It forms '''ordinals''', much like the English suffix '-th'.


{{Example|{{Derani|󱛄󱛃󱛒󱚺󱚺󱛂 󱚰󱛊󱚺󱛂 󱛄󱛊󱚴 󱛘󱚲󱚲󱛍󱚺󱚾󱚹󱛍󱛃󱛙 󱚷󱚹 󱛆󱛌󱚲 󱛘󱚷󱚹󱛍󱚴󱛂󱛙 󱛕|Kọsaq máq ké buajıo tı hû tıeq.}}|It's the third house on the street (third out of the houses on the street).}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Kọsaq máq ké buajıo tı hû tıeq.}}|It's the third house on the street (third out of the houses on the street).}}


{{Example|{{Derani|󱚲󱛃󱛒󱚶󱚺󱚵󱚺 󱚵󱛊󱚹󱚾󱚲󱛍󱚹 󱛚 󱛄󱛌󱛃󱛒󱛀󱚹 󱚷󱛊󱚲󱛂 󱛘󱚶󱛃󱛍󱚺󱛂󱛙 󱚳󱛃 󱚵󱛊󱚹 󱛘󱛃󱚲󱛍󱚺󱛙 󱛕|Bọdana níjuı kộshı túq doaq po ní gua.}}|This city was the first in this country to fall.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Bọdana níjuı kộshı túq doaq po ní gua.}}|This city was the first in this country to fall.}}


Finally, the prefix {{Derani|󱚽󱛃󱛒|nho-}} turns a number into a determiner:
Finally, the prefix {{Dr|nho-}} turns a number into a determiner:


{{Example|{{Derani|󱛆󱚴󱛒󱛄󱚹󱛍󱚺󱛎󱚹 󱚽󱛊󱚺󱛎󱛃 󱚽󱛊󱛃󱛒󱛃󱚲 󱛘󱛃󱛃󱚿󱚹󱛂󱛙 󱛕|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́gu gochıq.}}|She has two cats.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́gu gochıq.}}|She has two cats.}}


This prefix also comes with a null allomorph which can be used as long as the determiner has a complement. So, normally we'd see this written as simply {{Derani|󱛃󱛊󱚲 󱛘󱛃󱛃󱚿󱚹󱛂󱛙|gú gochıq}}.
This prefix also comes with a null allomorph which can be used as long as the determiner has a complement. So, normally we'd see this written as simply {{Dr|gú gochıq}}.


== Counting higher ==
== Counting higher ==
To form larger numbers, the golden rule is "each digit is a word". The tens place is marked with {{Derani|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹|heı}}, and the hundreds place with {{Derani|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴|fue}}. So for example, 123 would be spoken as {{Deranize|shífue guheı saq}}. Note that we never write out {{Deranize|koam}} as a digit, and {{Derani|󱛀󱚹󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹|shıheı}} and {{Deranize|shıfue}} may be abbreviated to simply {{Derani|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹|heı}} and {{Derani|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴|fue}}.
To form larger numbers, the golden rule is "each digit is a word". The tens place is marked with {{Dr|heı}}, and the hundreds place with {{Dr|fue}}. So for example, 123 would be spoken as {{Dr|shífue guheı saq}}. Note that we never write out {{Dr|koam}} as a digit, and {{Dr|shıheı}} and {{Dr|shıfue}} may be abbreviated to simply {{Dr|heı}} and {{Dr|fue}}.


To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Derani|󱛆󱚴󱛎󱚹|heı}} and {{Derani|󱚴󱚲󱛍󱚴|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Deranize|bıq}}, {{Deranize|nhoeı}}, {{Derani|󱛃󱚹󱛃󱚺|gıga}}, {{Derani|󱚷󱚴󱚻󱚺|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.
To form ''even larger'' numbers, keep going with {{Dr|heı}} and {{Dr|fue}}, but put the appropriate scale word ({{Dr|bıq}}, {{Dr|nhoeı}}, {{Dr|gıga}}, {{Dr|tera}}…) after each group of three digits.


{{Example|{{Deranize|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Chum bua jụ́ıshı nhoeı cıheı bıq req ní doaq.}}|About one million, fifty thousand people live in this city.}}


{{Example|{{Deranize|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}|Toaq Beta [[Timeline|was released]] in 2017.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Sho cueq Bétatoaq râo kú kọ́gu bıq heı dıaı.}}|Toaq Beta [[Timeline|was released]] in 2017.}}


== Negatives and decimals ==
== Negatives and decimals ==
Negatives are formed with the prefix {{Deranize|ze-}}. The word {{Deranize|co}} is a spoken decimal point. The resulting numbers are not cardinal numbers, so they're mostly useful as pronouns.
Negatives are formed with the prefix {{Dr|ze-}}. The word {{Dr|co}} is a spoken decimal point. The resulting numbers are not cardinal numbers, so they're mostly useful as pronouns.


{{Example|{{Deranize|Zıuhuaq zẹ́saq zẹ́jo co gu.}}|The number −3 is greater than the number −4.2.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Zıuhuaq zẹ́saq zẹ́jo co gu.}}|The number −3 is greater than the number −4.2.}}


The word {{Deranize|chıo}} marks the start of repeating decimals.
The word {{Dr|chıo}} marks the start of repeating decimals.


{{Example|{{Deranize|shí co gu saq chıo jo fe}}|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}
{{Example|{{Dr|shí co gu saq chıo jo fe}}|2=1.23(45) = 1.23454545…}}


== Units ==
== Units ==
Units like {{Deranize|meta}} (meter) and {{Deranize|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and must be paired with a number to form a '''quantity'''.
Units like {{Dr|meta}} (meter) and {{Dr|hora}} (hour) are also number words. They multiply when put next to each other, and must be paired with a number to form a '''quantity'''.


{{Example|{{Deranize|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}|The length is 30 meters.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Buaıne kú sáqheı meta.}}|The length is 30 meters.}}
{{Example|{{Deranize|Cabaq kú gú co shı kılobata hora.}}|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Cabaq kú gú co shı kılobata hora.}}|The energy is 2.1 kWh.}}


They can also be inverted with {{Deranize|peo-}}. For example, {{Deranize|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":
They can also be inverted with {{Dr|peo-}}. For example, {{Dr|pẹometa}} is the unit m⁻¹. A quantity like 60 km/h is expressed as "sixty kilometer hour⁻¹":


{{Example|{{Deranize|Suaıne kú cíheı kılometa pẹohora.}}|The speed is 60 km/h.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Suaıne kú cíheı kılometa pẹohora.}}|The speed is 60 km/h.}}


== Fractions ==
== Fractions ==
The prefix {{Deranize|peo-}} can also form fractions: for example, {{Deranize|fé pẹocı}} is the number 5/6, and {{Deranize|shí pẹofue}} is 1%. Just as a quantity requires both a number and a unit, a fraction requires both a numerator and denominator; {{Deranize|pẹofue}} isn't particularly meaningful on its own.
The prefix {{Dr|peo-}} can also form fractions: for example, {{Dr|fé pẹocı}} is the number 5/6, and {{Dr|shí pẹofue}} is 1%. Just as a quantity requires both a number and a unit, a fraction requires both a numerator and denominator; {{Dr|pẹofue}} isn't particularly meaningful on its own.


Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Deranize|róaı pẹosaq meta}}, {{Deranize|pẹosaq}} must come ''before'' {{Deranize|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.
Fractional units are a little different from units proper, because they form numbers, not quantities. That is, in {{Dr|róaı pẹosaq meta}}, {{Dr|pẹosaq}} must come ''before'' {{Dr|meta}} because it belongs to the number part of the quantity.


== Sums ==
== Sums ==
Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example|{{Deranize|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Deranize|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example|{{Deranize|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta nao.}}|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
Some things are most naturally expressed as the sum of multiple quantities. Quantities add together when put next to each other:{{Example|{{Dr|Fáfuaq mı Taıtanıko bï duo hóq sáq hora heı jo mınu da.}}|The movie Titanic is 3 hours and 14 minutes long.}}You can also combine a whole number and a fraction to produce a '''mixed number'''. Just put {{Dr|roı}} between the whole number and the fraction:{{Example|{{Dr|Luı pıe jí shí roı shı pẹogu lıta nao.}}|I've had 1 ½ liters of water.}}
== Pseudo-numbers ==
== Pseudo-numbers ==
Some words like {{Deranize|puı}} and {{Deranize|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Deranize|ne-}} and {{Deranize|nho-}}.
Some words like {{Dr|puı}} and {{Dr|tıopuı}} are pseudo-numbers: they can't stand alone as a number pronoun, but can still be used with certain prefixes, such as {{Dr|ne-}} and {{Dr|nho-}}.


{{Example|{{Deranize|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}|She has many cats.}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Hẹkıaı nháo nhọ́puı [gochıq].}}|She has many cats.}}
{{Example|{{Deranize|Guache kọtıopuı [mí_Lıqkoq]?}}|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}
{{Example|{{Dr|Guache kọtıopuı [mí_Lıqkoq]?}}|The how-many-th president is Lincoln?}}


== Writing conventions ==
== Writing conventions ==
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One challenge when using Arabic numerals is where to put the tone marks: numbers can appear in different tones, and computers in particular have a hard time inserting and displaying diacritics on top of numbers. For this reason, we adopt the following conventions:
One challenge when using Arabic numerals is where to put the tone marks: numbers can appear in different tones, and computers in particular have a hard time inserting and displaying diacritics on top of numbers. For this reason, we adopt the following conventions:


* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Deranize|gúheı jo}}).
* By default, a bare number such as 24 is assumed to be in the rising tone ({{Dr|gúheı jo}}).
* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Deranize|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Deranize|guheı jo}} → {{Deranize|nẹ24}}).
* A verb of cardinality should have its {{Dr|ne-}} prefix written out explicitly ({{Dr|guheı jo}} → {{Dr|nẹ24}}).
* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done|4}} should have its {{Deranize|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Deranize|kıaı gû gochıq}} → {{Deranize|kıaı nhộ2 gochıq}}).
* A numeric determiner in the hiatus tone {{Done|4}} should have its {{Dr|nho-}} prefix written out ({{Dr|kıaı gû gochıq}} → {{Dr|kıaı nhộ2 gochıq}}).
* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done|4}} should have the prefix {{Deranize|no-}} added ({{Deranize|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Deranize|Huaq nộ2 3}}).
* A number pronoun in the hiatus tone {{Done|4}} should have the prefix {{Dr|no-}} added ({{Dr|Huaq gû sáq}} → {{Dr|Huaq nộ2 3}}).